| beaglebrat |
| Posted 8/9/2007 1:26:03 PM |
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I stay home with my kids and dogs full time. I can tell you that my dogs and kids all get better care now that I stay home. It was difficult even caring for 2 litters a year when I worked full time. So I understand.
Not to mention English Bulldogs are notoriously difficult to raise. Most breeds just don't require that much intensive care. |
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/9/2007 11:53:10 PM |
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Quote maoseger1010: Wow you produce 42 Puppies a year.. 210 in five years.
I bred and showed English Bulldog Puppies for 8 years and only produced 94 Puppies. Heck I thought they were a lot of work. I'm pretty sure I... |
yeah i dont know ANY Rb's that breed 6 litters a year .
not ONE.
and i am guesdsing that your "friends pups " are also yours .
so i thhink the 200 a year is a more accurate fit-( based on prior convos with you from way back ) - when i first came on the board - you always claimed to be breeding a LOT of pups - then you went and said only a coupl litters a year , now your sticking at 6 ? i dont believe that .
well YES- 200 pups shipped a year- that would make you an EXPERT on shipping. congratulation. you have expertise at something, that is always nice.
and i would also say that would make you a budding/ small time puppy miller.
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/9/2007 11:55:33 PM |
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didnt one of the dobe breeders & show people here say she has shown for like 8 or 10 YEARS and just had her first or second litter?
was that M& D ? i cant remember - i shoudl go dig that up ..
do we have a search engine on this board? its SO hard to find stuff from way back..?
anyone know?
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| lganio |
| Posted 8/10/2007 7:51:36 AM |
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I have not found a good way to search through old threads. That would be a great advantage to the site! |
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| beaglebrat |
| Posted 8/10/2007 11:30:40 AM |
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Blah, blah, blah. I know people who have 25 dogs and 18 litters a year. They are called 'kennels'. I know people who have 3 dogs and 1 litter a year. Who cares, as long as their dogs are taken care of, and they take responsibility for their Puppies. I don't know personally of ONE breeder that will not take back a puppy for any reason. All this demonetization of Breeders and they are only a PART of the problem.
RW you are as old as dirt. I bet those european Puppies that your family shipped over when you were young came from what? People's homes? No. Kennels. If you say otherwise you are a liar. Because all the big 'show names' back in the day had a lot of dogs and they weren't in the house.
My dogs are all in my house. My Puppies are all raised in my house. I don't care what you do or don't believe. Don't like it, don't buy one of my Puppies.
I do have MANY MANY friends. They see how successful I am with Champion Sired dogs (some show prosp, some pets). They beg me to show them how to properly advertise their pups on the internet. They beg me to help them learn how to ship.
They want to be like me. Unfortunately they are older. They don't have the social skills with people that I have, and even if I tell them exactly what to do, it is harder for them.
RW--I forgot, but weren't you supposed to not address me? I don't think I address you. |
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/10/2007 12:59:14 PM |
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| Quote beaglebrat: Blah, blah, blah. I know people who have 25 dogs and 18 litters a year. They are called 'kennels'. I know people who have 3 dogs and 1 litter a year. Who cares, as long as their dogs are taken care of,... |
QUOTE "RW you are as old as dirt. I bet those european Puppies that your family shipped over when you were young came from what? People's homes? No. Kennels. If you say otherwise you are a liar. Because all the big 'show names' back in the day had a lot of dogs and they weren't in the house. "
1- how old am i, or do i haveto be - to be qualified as "old as dirt?" ( you resorting to personal name calling again?)
2- teh dogs my family imported from germany and europe came from my FAMILY that lived there - did thy have kennels? some did . some didnt - breeding working dogs to excellence to SV standards in GSD's - with the full ability to work was "normal" in the family - and tradition.
teh dobes - i was too youngto remember but they also came from germany and from my family overthere -
NONE of them sold dogs to JQP in the usa ,
in fact if you read up on GSD's you will find that the Germans NEVER shipped teher BEST dogs to usa .. they shipped teh garbage dogs to isa.
. we had family theer hence we got good dogs.
if you knew more about GSd's i can tell you a LOT about how Roland
( i need to check that but i think it was Roland) was a german GSD- was denied teh ability to breed by teh SV - so he was sold to an american - why did SV deny him teh right to breed ? POOR temperment- he had a VERY bad temper.
sold to usa to help create GSD's here that carried his lines and many also carried his poor temper.
3- if you know so much about teh OLD days in europe you must be pretty old.
most ogf my family had teh dogs they had in training in kennels many once finished were house dogs.
the same as when i was growing up.
a protection Dog is useless in a kennel. we always have protection dogs - teh fully trained ones were in teh house , teh in traing ones were in the kennel- BTW our kennels in NY were with A/C & heat inside the "den" teher was a twin bed per dog. - they had classical music 24-7 .. they had acess to teh runs - it was NOT a kennel peopel picture - my mother relentlessly havd a fit as back then central AC was EXPENSIVE we didnt even have it in teh HOUSE. but teh dogs had it as well as cenbtral heat.- they were huge and all had automatic panic/ escape button... my mother could hit the button if she felt threatened and all the dogs kennels would open.
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/10/2007 12:59:36 PM |
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i didnt get a letter from admin saying i was NOT allowed to speak to you.
i was asking you about your expertise in shipping, and your reply confirmed my suspicions about you.
big deal .why does that bother you SOO much?
i also didnt call you PERSONAL names or make personal attacks on YOU as you seem to enjoy doing to me , planning on calling dept of familys again?
ithink when anyone gets too close to teh truth about your "business" you freak out reverse attack to draw away the attention FROM you even if it means making personal attacks.
i do not need to make a personal attack on you.
you thnk and have said MANY times i am a crazy rescuer.
ok .. i dont think that about me but - it doesnt bother me that you do.
( because you nor your opinion matter to me whatso ever i KNOW what i am & have nothing to hide)
i do not see why me saing I think your a small time puppy miller bothers you so much if it isnt true?
why do you even CARE what i think?
XRW
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/10/2007 11:50:15 PM |
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| Quote beaglebrat: Blah, blah, blah. I know people who have 25 dogs and 18 litters a year. They are called 'kennels'. I know people who have 3 dogs and 1 litter a year. Who cares, as long as their dogs are taken care of,... |
quote brat" who cares?"
the rescuers & shelters and euth techs and pound workers - WE CARE.
responsible breeders CARE .
we already KNOW YOU DO NOT CARE.
you are VERY proud of that and dont even try to hide it.
XRW
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/10/2007 11:56:47 PM |
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| Quote beaglebrat: Blah, blah, blah. I know people who have 25 dogs and 18 litters a year. They are called 'kennels'. I know people who have 3 dogs and 1 litter a year. Who cares, as long as their dogs are taken care of,... |
quote" They don't have the social skills with people that I have,"
YOU have social SKILLS with people ????
ROTFFLMAO.
social skills with people huh? - so did PT Barnum & Anton Szandor LaVey !!!
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| beaglebrat |
| Posted 8/11/2007 9:59:47 AM |
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| Quote beaglebrat: There have been many threads on this subject in fact I believe there was a heated thread with LOTS of information on shipping. Some people think it is safe other's do not. Some airlines have had 0 pet... |
Look at my first post on this thread. Does it mention RESCUE WENCH AT ALL? I really don't think it does. Yet the VERY NEXT POST, who shows up to start in on the NAME CALLING AND INSULTS?
MODS ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANYTHING? Or do the rules only apply to who you don't like? I have as much right to post on here as any one else. More than most in fact, because I pay a monthly fee PLUS featured ads.
I don't think it is fair that someone who is hear for FREE and of their choosing should post stalk and harass.
I thought the MODS (not ADMIN) had imposed a 'truce', between myself and Rescue Wench. I could go on this thread and respond to the 4 POST RANT AGAINST ME, but I DON'T WANT TO BE BANNED.
Can you make others follow the rules please? I don't think RW or my conversation with her has brought up anything USEFUL about the topic, and I don't think it is enjoyable for the other users to read.
Thanks a bunch!!!
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/11/2007 10:47:10 PM |
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Quote beaglebrat: Look at my first post on this thread. Does it mention RESCUE WENCH AT ALL? I really don't think it does. Yet the VERY NEXT POST, who shows up to start in on the NAME CALLING AND INSULTS?
MODS ARE YOU... |
you called me OLDER than DIRT bratty ... i said NOTHING harsh tto you at all - i asked about your expertise in shipping and let you know that it was a double edged sword question..
and your reply?
" rw is older than dirt "
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WHO cares about the people ( many of them YOUR "pals" ) cranking out a ton of unneeded & unwanted pups packing pounds - dying horrible deaths and being sold to pit bull baiters & research labs..
_"who CARES" that is your POINT of view.
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I CARE.
i am ALLOWED to care . as well as you are allow to NOT give a crap.
go cry to admin - what ever( rolling eyes)
your such a whining CRY BABY ! REALLY!
you sure can dish it out, but cant take it in can you?
why NOT threaten me again?
you seem to enjoy that .
i REALLY dont mind after all i am "OLDER than DIRT" and a "LIAR" remember? .. - nothing you say to me effects me in the slightest - well i take that back when you threatened my child it IRKED me.
i would LOVE to do lunch with you one day...
would you care to meet me for lunch - my treat.
we can CHAT
in private .
i am willing, ready & able.
i think it could be a learning experience .
I think it could be fun....
DO you?
XRW
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/11/2007 10:55:59 PM |
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should i start advertising in teh rescue section ? so that I am a PAYING member also ? will that make you feel better brat?
( you did pick an apt name for your screen name )
- i wont get many adoptions as i do NOT ship and NOTHING walks out of this rescue with ovaries OR testicles.. but so what - i got a nice donation a few days ago- i can afford to advertise - JUST to "rank" with your "paying "
membership.
will THAT make you feel better and you can stop crying to admin how YOU pay to be on teh site ( albeit the OTHER part of this site; the SELLING part- NOT the message board which is FREE - and advertisesed as FREE, in case you never noticed)
face it as LONG as you are encoraging BYBS with information on HOW to be a BETTER BYB miller or mutts for bucks breeders -
i will ALWAYS tell them teh reality of that .. teh NOT so pretty side - teh REALITY of teh blood money that you & others like you make.
and WHO pays teh price - teh heartbroken *( and BROKE owners) as well as teh poor animals doomed to die.
IF YOU can tell them its GREAT to pump out a ton of pet quality genetic nighmare pups & ship to strangers for big bucks, then why cannot i tell them what HAPPENS to a good 80 percent of those pups eventually?
we OBVIOUSLY differ in opinion & MORALS ( VASTLY)
ask BSWAILS - how his litter went ? teh guy you were telling to NOT listen to sue about altering his dogs , and the guy you were teaching about shipping & damn teh torpedos ( ie genetic testing , titles etc) full speed ahead...
"get teh BIG bucks.."
ASK HIM , about that litter - i PLACED (IN ADOPTED SAFE HOMES - FULLY VETTED & ALTERED) that litter for him.
ask HIM about what he thinks NOW about the difference between breeders that KNOW and CARE what they are doing , and pups for BUCKS breeders.
see what he tells you.
ASK HIM - i DARE YOU.
XRW
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| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 8/12/2007 12:22:13 AM |
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| Quote lganio: I have not found a good way to search through old threads. That would be a great advantage to the site! |
i agree a serach engine would be a blessing - less duplicate threads - and so MUCH easier to access posted information.
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| PerfectPom |
| Posted 2/15/2008 1:50:09 PM |
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AAA if you can't beat them...join them. For old times sake this one was a good debate. The breeder of Peanut has only 2 breeding pairs of which I have seen she breeds twice in a 12 mo period since I got Peanut. Of course she would have a lot less Puppies in the litter being Poms. She ships too, god forbid, although I really think she sells a lot right in her area. |
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| PerfectPom |
| Posted 2/15/2008 2:02:58 PM |
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Quote RESCUEWENCH: i agree a serach engine would be a blessing - less duplicate threads - and so MUCH easier to access posted information.
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I agree a VERY GOOD Idea, but I'm not holding my breath! |
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