| RESCUEWENCH |
| Posted 5/9/2007 9:13:04 PM |
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Quote jrue1985: "so - once you tell us what his genetic & heath test were - and what titles he & teh female hold ..
we can STOP calling you a BYB ..
becasue without the above -
that is exactly what you are."
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QUOTE"I don't mean to be a brat about this, or start a fight; but havn't you ever heard of innocent until proven guilty. I think this is most of the problem here, is that everyone is accusing everyone before the true facts can come out. "
as pat said - hey if she was a RB she would NOT be asking the question she asked ..
2- if she was an RB in need of help she would be on a board of THAT breed -
3- the stud ( withteh girlfriend?) OK i never heard a RB call a planned mating a GIRLFRIED.. -
4- teh OBVIOUS is so apparent and ON top of it she got PISSY and prclaims she isnt BYB ing when she is TELLING us she is
sh esad she had genetic testing done
an RB - woudl have said i tested for X & Y & Z - and teh Dog holds titles in X & Y & Z and teh bitch i am breeding to has this etcetc..
she PROVED herself giulty.
and now is unable to figure out what tests were asking about ..
HINT... OP try googling it..
JRUE she is a BYB - and LYING about it.
XRW
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| lganio |
| Posted 5/9/2007 9:24:28 PM |
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I think just the title of this thread gives away her secret!! Y are you asking if your female is ready to breed in the title and then claiming to want her fixed in the post? That confused me. I know nothing about breeding...that is why I don't do it!! (I also don't do it because I can't afford to do it the right way, and because my pup isn't going to be shown or win any titles...she is purely my family pet) That is why she is fixed! |
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| emlee3 |
| Posted 5/9/2007 9:56:37 PM |
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i doubt the poster will be back. it seems that everyone here has scared her off.
if she does come back i would like to know where she got this puppy. a 1 yr old bitch who had her first litter a few weeks after she got her? if she was a true REPUTABLE breeder she would NOT get a BYB pup! unless she adopted it from a shelter, which sounds to be unlikely. considering that she brought home a UNALTERED pup.
She did not know what a "byb" was and did not show proof that she tested her stud which only means she knows nothing about breeding. OP if you do come back i hope you fix ALL your dogs. it maybe that you love your dogs but the Puppies your Dog is producing is at risk of being abused, abandon, and mistreated. |
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| suebgone |
| Posted 5/9/2007 10:05:05 PM |
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emlee, she said she just got the bitch on Friday & that the Puppies were 12 weeks old.
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| jrue1985 |
| Posted 5/9/2007 10:42:32 PM |
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I give up on posting on all of these types of threads. When I try to say what I really think I get told that I am being too harsh (it was a different thread, I don't remember which one- but one of the mods said what I said was out of line). BUT if I try to be understanding I get a slap in the face. I GIVE UP. I will not even read these ones anymore. |
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| arachyd |
| Posted 5/9/2007 11:26:24 PM |
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It seems kind of pointless now but to answer part of the op's questions in case anyone else worries that their dog's heat cycle may be off schedule...many dogs play by swinging their backside into the other Dog (sometimes to the point of qualifying as a body slam) which can be mistaken for presenting themselves for breeding. Humping can be dominance-related or playing rather than breeding behavior. |
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/9/2007 11:56:14 PM |
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I'm curious. if you are not doing it for the Money, and your Dog has been tested, but you dont show and your going to get him snipped after he breeds, then why are you breeding him?
Also your post says:
"I am in no way a back yard breeder.. yes my male has been tested for everything and so hasn't the female that I am breeding him to.."
It specifically says hasn't
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| maoseger1010 |
| Posted 5/10/2007 1:09:03 AM |
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| Quote arachyd: It seems kind of pointless now but to answer part of the op's questions in case anyone else worries that their dog's heat cycle may be off schedule...many dogs play by swinging their backside into the... |
Good point. I missed that but its true. |
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| Bearandme |
| Posted 5/10/2007 3:26:59 AM |
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hmmmm easy to daw the conclusion that shes waiting to breed ,
but why did the previous breeder want rid so badly of the mum ,
even i no my Dog goes into heat every 6 months and youd have to be a dam fool not to notice !
tessas appointment is on monday an although im worried shes going i suggest the original poster gets her bitch to the vet ,
the bitch putting her rear end in his face unshure if that means shes ready to breed ? the fact the male was not intrested means NO ,
now im no expert on breeding i only researched a little but a maltese and a shihtzu ?
and if your Dog is such a fine stud why fix him after 1 litter ?none of this makes sense to me ,
getting the impression im wading threw 10 tones of
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| Raggysmom |
| Posted 5/10/2007 7:39:14 AM |
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Ok, yes i did have all the testing done to my male.. i have proof of them(incase u want to know) The Dog i got on friday was rescued from her owner. by her groomer. when becca got the Dog she was informed that it was already pregnant. so i don''t know why she was bred.... all I am trying to do is give this little one the love and attention it greatly deserves. and NO YOU DIDN'T SCARE ME AWAY!!!!! so if you want to b about this Dog all day long go right ahead... I took it from one bad place .. so i am not in the wrong!!!!!! I don't care less what you all have to say all I asked was if she already had Puppies 10-12 weeks ago when would her next heat be and u all jumped down my throat like i just killed someone and YES I WILL BE BACK!!!
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| MJA1103 |
| Posted 5/10/2007 8:36:53 AM |
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My two cents: Get your new female spayed as quickly as possible. She's already been bred far too young. She'll be coming back into heat soon and you definitely don't need an "oops" litter. It's not fair to her or any Puppies that result. As far as your "stud" goes: If he has not been shown and titled he should in no way be used as a "stud" with anything. After reading your questions and your responses it is obvious that you haven't done the necessary research about your breeds or about breeding. Breeding encompasses SO MUCH more than just putting two dogs together. |
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| Bearandme |
| Posted 5/10/2007 8:40:21 AM |
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| Quote Raggysmom: Ok, yes i did have all the testing done to my male.. i have proof of them(incase u want to know) The Dog i got on friday was rescued from her owner. by her groomer. when becca got the Dog she was informed... |
ok calm down or you may pop a blood vessel ,
in all fairness you didnt explain yourself properly the first time if you had no misunderstandings would have or could have occured ,
the thread title said quite plainly breed not heat ,
one posters asked which tests your Dog has had to be a "stud " to give you correct advice also the questions about the bitch where to give accurate advice ,
people have different ways of expression and how they describe things ,
and people interprite statements in there own way ,
you did get some very good advice but remember people can only guess your motives from your threads so be moe precise in future ,
jmpo naturally , |
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| maoseger1010 |
| Posted 5/10/2007 9:13:33 AM |
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| Quote Raggysmom: Ok, yes i did have all the testing done to my male.. i have proof of them(incase u want to know) The Dog i got on friday was rescued from her owner. by her groomer. when becca got the Dog she was informed... |
I for one am glad your not leaving good for you. I'm sure we can learn from you and you can learn from us.
However be very careful about lumping everyone together... at no time did I jump on you. I asked for clairity and then answered your question as did several other people.
As the last poster stated,your on a message board your going to get opinions and sometimes their going to be loud and proud and your not going to like them. Most of the people giving advice really know what they are talking about. Even if you don't care for the delivery its likely you will learn something if you see past it.
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Most breeders do not refer to the bitch they will be breeding their stud to as his g/f. Personally that tells me that even though you may have done all the testing on your stud you still have a lot to learn about breeding.
Oh and just because you have the stud and won't have to deal with the litter produced doesn't mean your responsibility stops at the waters edge. Of course I'm sure you've thought of that. But have you thought of..
how your going to handle medical cost should your stud get bit while breeding the bitch? Or if he picks up a STD or hurts his penius if she fights the tie? Or his back? I've seen studs come out with eye injuries as well. Mateing is tough stuff and sometimes one or both dogs come out injured. What if your Dog bites the bitch and she incurres medical expences? All of these things can and do often happen? Do you have a contract with the bitches owners on who pays what and what will happens if your stud doesn't produce? How will you get paid, what if only one puppy is produced? How many times will you send your stud to the bitch to breed?
I could go on and on. If you haven't thought of these things please feel free to ask for more information.
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| pugpeaple7 |
| Posted 5/10/2007 10:39:41 AM |
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Your female will come in heat about 6 months after whelping a litter of Puppies. but sometimes they come in heat early. My pug came in heat 2 months early after whelping. If you don't want her bred get her spayed ASAP.
In my opinion you have been given really good advice in regards to breeding your stud Dog also.
If you do breed him , assist with the breeding as all the problems stated on the other posts can & do occur.
My stud pug developed a minor inflamation of the penis after his last breeding & had to be put on antibiotics. Pay close attention to that also.
Hopefully there are good homes for all the Puppies before you breed.
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| Raggysmom |
| Posted 5/10/2007 12:54:32 PM |
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yes there are really good homes already waiting for the Puppies.. and so that everyone knows I pay all the vet bills for the male,female and Puppies .. i am involved with everything that happens with the babies and everything else.. |
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| pugpeaple7 |
| Posted 5/10/2007 7:37:14 PM |
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| Quote Raggysmom: yes there are really good homes already waiting for the Puppies.. and so that everyone knows I pay all the vet bills for the male,female and Puppies .. i am involved with everything that happens with the... |
No need to get on the defensive, i was only trying to be helpful. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 5/10/2007 11:21:25 PM |
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| Quote Raggysmom: Ok, yes i did have all the testing done to my male.. i have proof of them(incase u want to know) The Dog i got on friday was rescued from her owner. by her groomer. when becca got the Dog she was informed... |
What I was wondering is why you need to know when the Dog will go into heat before getting her spayed? A Dog can be spayed even during her heat cycle. She's not in heat now right? She won't be a week from now...or even a month. So why is that important? Why do you need to know when it's obvious that the Dog could go in at any time to be spayed? You seem to be very defensive about the whole situation. You didn't specifically ask in the title when your Dog would go into heat, but when she would be ready to breed. Isn't that going to lead people to believe that you ARE interested in breeding her, and are just trying to keep any arguments to a minimum? Seems strange to me, as it obviously does to many other members. |
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| CannonFarms |
| Posted 5/11/2007 6:50:06 AM |
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trying to wade through all this has gaven me a headach |
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| MJA1103 |
| Posted 5/11/2007 9:02:41 AM |
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| Quote CannonFarms: trying to wade through all this has gaven me a headach |
Me too! Miss FunnyBunny brought up some good points. Something about the OP's questioning and responses just seems "off". |
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| gbat1stop |
| Posted 5/11/2007 10:01:54 AM |
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| Quote Raggysmom: yes there are really good homes already waiting for the Puppies.. and so that everyone knows I pay all the vet bills for the male,female and Puppies .. i am involved with everything that happens with the... |
You pay all the vet bills for ALL dogs involved, homes already lined up, testing is done, although you will not elaborate on those tests. I find all this hard to believe when you have absolutely no clue as to when your female will go in heat. I understand it may be hard to pinpoint the exact day but you should have a clue if you can do simple math.
Honestly, you need to keep her away from the male from now until she finishes her heat cycle (or gets spayed)whether it be a day or 6 months from now. I have known females to come into heat immediately after weaning a litter. Having a male living in the same household may bring her cycle on before it's time. |
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