| just1bridgette |
| Posted 3/21/2005 3:40:45 PM |
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A friend and I was having a discussion on an earlier board about the "FACT" That both Backyard Breeders AND Pet stores are bad. Apparently not everyone knows this so I've made this board to help inform you and give you facts. This board will not only help educate you but also inform you on things to look for when getting your puppy/dog.
Firstly, Backyard breeding by definition: Well, they just breed dogs for the sake of it. Well, they just breed dogs for the sake of it. They may have a sweet pet they want to try and reproduce or they think that their dogs are quality because they have papers and/or are registered with some registry. They think maybe they can make a few dollars selling pups, etc. They just put out dogs without real consideration for the future of not only the breed but the Puppies produced. They do not provide sound temperment or true represenatives of the breed.
The problem with this is that you could be getting an animal with bad temperment, you aren't going to have a long history behind your pet, and you you don't know what faults your pet is going to have inherited as it ages.
If you say well, the backyard breeder that I got my pet from has pedigree for the sir and the dam etc.... than it was NOT a backyard breeder. Just because somone is breeding dogs in their back yard doesn't make them a backyard breeder lol.
Now petstores here are the things incorrect about them:
1.) They usually do not have OFA, CERF, Thyroid, and breed specific tests.
2.) When they were a very young puppy you don't KNOW if they were exposed to household things like vacuums, hair dryers, washing machines, other things that make noises but give no potential to be dangerous to your puppy.
3.)References from previous puppy buyers (who bought from the breeder that you are getting your puppy from)
4.)Knowing a long history of the breeder. When you get a pet from a puppy store you can't question the breeder and you can't really be for sure about anything.
Buying Puppies from a pet store is a bad thing to do. You may think you are saving the puppy, but in actuality you are destining many more Puppies just like the one you saved to be in a puppy store.
I'm not in any way saying that if you bought a puppy from a pet store that you are a bad person because you are not. Just ill-informed. |
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| just1bridgette |
| Posted 3/21/2005 3:57:33 PM |
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I just noticed on another board that ana posted this link. I decided to check it out and it is very accurate: http://crownroyalyorkies.com/petstore_dogs.htm |
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| Pompom7 |
| Posted 3/21/2005 7:51:11 PM |
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While we are enlightening people and giving information -
Where do Petland Puppies come from?
Petland Puppies and kittens come primarily from three sources:
Individuals in your local community who breed registered pets.
Licensed professional distributors who purchase registered pets from professional breeders who are inspected and licensed by the United States Department of Agriculture.
Animal shelters, rescue groups and members of the local community who have accidental litters of homeless Puppies and kittens to place.
There are a number of standards in place to help ensure that Petland pets are healthy and are raised in sanitary environments:
Petland has developed relationships with professional pet distributors who are working to provide state-of-the-art pet care facilities and offer superior veterinary care to Petland Puppies and kittens.
Members of Petland's corporate staff conduct on-site inspections of pet distributors' facilities to ensure the highest animal care procedures and facility standards are maintained. Petland Puppies and kittens have been health-checked by two and in most cases three veterinarians before they are offered to the public.
Purebred Puppies and kittens and most Adopt-A-Pets from Petland leave the store with a health warranty covering infectious diseases and hereditary or congenital disorders.
What about the health of pets from pet stores?
All living things, including purebreds, can have innate medical issues. This is not determined by whether or not a pet comes from a pet store.
One important key to obtaining a healthy pet is veterinary screening. Please note:
Petland-associated pet distributors work with established breeders and veterinarians to screen for health problems.
At least two and in most cases three veterinarians perform health checks on Petland Puppies and kittens before they are made available to the public.
Once housed inside a Petland store, Petland Puppies and kittens are again given a health check, this time by a local consulting veterinarian.
On a daily basis, trained kennel technicians also check the health of Petland Puppies and kittens. Weight, temperature, eating and drinking habits are monitored and results recorded. Any inconsistencies are noted and reported to the consulting veterinarian for follow-up care.
More and more Petland store operators, pet distributors and breeders are now using pet registries committed to genetics research. |
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| ppyluv_4 |
| Posted 3/21/2005 7:58:37 PM |
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IMO - Just like human babies, I don't believe there are EVER any guarantees on the life of any puppy no matter where they're born or who their parents are. That's just like saying that if a baby is born in a certain hospital they'll be guaranteed never to be sick. There are so many other things that factor in to the health of a puppy. |
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| yodamom |
| Posted 3/21/2005 8:50:52 PM |
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While you might get a life-time guantee, just think about what that might mean. You purchase your puppy from this reputable breeder (and she can take pretty pictures too!) and then after a few years it dies. umm, take it back and get another one...that easy huh? I would never trust anyone who tells me they will guantee anything for life!
and I'll say it again and again...
NOT ALL PETSTORE ARE BAD
NOT ALL BYBs ARE BAD
try grasping the concept that there are no absolutes in this life.
and as long as you keep trying to preach extremes you are losing a large audience. |
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| Hoss1948 |
| Posted 3/21/2005 11:59:36 PM |
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Quote Pompom7: While we are enlightening people and giving information -
Where do Petland Puppies come from?
Petland Puppies and kittens come primarily from three sources:
Individuals in your local community who breed... |
Pompom7 you sound like you know a lot about Patland corporate policies. You ones said that you know about this pet store because you asked them questions you must have wrote a lot down while you were standing in there.  |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 3/22/2005 12:16:44 AM |
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Actually Hoss, the things that she's been posting is from the petland website. Yeah, like they're really going to say "We get our Puppies from puppy mills and sell them sick" It doesn't work that way... |
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| Hoss1948 |
| Posted 3/22/2005 1:32:58 AM |
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| Quote FunnyBunny: Actually Hoss, the things that she's been posting is from the petland website. Yeah, like they're really going to say "We get our Puppies from puppy mills and sell them sick" It doesn't... |
Say FB e-mail me at hpatillo@emeraldcst.com   |
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| Pompom7 |
| Posted 3/22/2005 7:00:39 AM |
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FB is correct it is public knowledge available to all on their wonderful website.
I also have spoken with our local Petland and were given much more information as to where they get there pups locally and guess what ?? I was given the addresses and went there and guess what ???? God forbid, it wasn't horrible at all ! No I know, that can't be possible, its a petstore they get all their dogs from awful deplorable puppymills. (rolls eyes)
By grouping all 'petstores' into one generalization you are being ignorant. |
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| SaraRigo |
| Posted 3/22/2005 9:16:06 AM |
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Hoss said "You ones said that you know about this pet store because you asked them questions you must have wrote a lot down while you were standing in there."
Actually Hoss, I said that about my pet store. (Sorry, I mean the one I shop at) |
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| Pompom7 |
| Posted 3/22/2005 9:49:01 AM |
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Informed educated people ask questions and seek answers, don't just believe everything strangers post on a public website or believe that because one is bad all are bad. |
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| AnAsAzi |
| Posted 3/22/2005 3:50:07 PM |
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Quote Pompom7: FB is correct it is public knowledge available to all on their wonderful website.
I also have spoken with our local Petland and were given much more information as to where they get there pups locally... |
Youre so full of BS!!!! The only way youve been to petlands puppy supplier is if you run the mill from which they get their dogs from or else you own a PETLAND! I highly doubt an owner actually sees where they get their dogs from either!
You must think we are fools!!! |
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| Pompom7 |
| Posted 3/22/2005 4:05:36 PM |
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Members of Petland's corporate staff conduct on-site inspections of pet distributors' facilities to ensure the highest animal care procedures and facility standards are maintained.
Sorry you are wrong.....again  |
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| yorkies78 |
| Posted 3/22/2005 4:10:54 PM |
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Please. And the USDA fully inspects all commercial Dog breeders. As does APHIS. |
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| AnAsAzi |
| Posted 3/22/2005 4:23:41 PM |
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Everytime Yorkies posts her comments, the thread is locked.. HHmmmmmmmmmmm Very interesting indeed!!!! |
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| AnAsAzi |
| Posted 3/22/2005 4:24:40 PM |
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BTW Yorkies,, excellent post about Petland! 
I guess for some, the truth hurts... |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 3/22/2005 4:27:33 PM |
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Actually, I got the rules thread locked. I informed Gbat about what people were saying and that they were again trying to start arguments and I guess that made her lock it. Good...These people shouldn't be allowed to try to start arguments, especially on an admin's thread  |
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| AnAsAzi |
| Posted 3/22/2005 4:29:14 PM |
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Oh ok... it seemed funny though..
Yorkies, at least you ge the last word.lol |
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| SaraRigo |
| Posted 3/22/2005 4:31:46 PM |
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Yorkies,
That petland SHOULD be shut down! But I do have a legit question for you most of the problems you stated with that particular Petland were mostly staff not doing what they should am I right? How can we blame puppy mills for the fact that a puppy had a kong stuck in his jaw? |
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| AnAsAzi |
| Posted 3/22/2005 4:37:03 PM |
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WHY???? why do you ask so many silly questions?????????
Do you need a picture drawn for you?????? |
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