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angelzoo
7/17/2006 7:01:18 PM
Posts: 1071
SALEM TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- A woman was reportedly eaten alive by the wolf pups she was raising in Salem Township Monday. The body of Sandra Piovesan, 50, was discovered by family members inside a large fenced in area where the victim kept six hybrid wolves. Channel 11s Alan Jennings reported the victim was feeding her wolves Monday morning when she was mauled to death. At the time wolf pups and 7 to 8 adult wolves were in the cage. Piovesan was pronounced dead at the scene. According to the Westmoreland County coroner it is currently unknown if the victim suffered a sudden medical event and was subsequently mauled, or if the animals fatally attacked her. The cause of death is to be determined in an autopsy. http://www.wpxi.com/
foxfire_ga79
7/17/2006 8:35:56 PM
Posts: 4801
That's sad. But how come people are still making wolf hybrids, I thought it was already established that they are just not quit safe enough.
christianchick
7/17/2006 8:44:42 PM
Posts: 280
wow, I wonder if they were more dog then wolf or wolf then dog...??? That is very tradgic
doggylove101
7/17/2006 8:58:05 PM
Posts: 261
That's very sad, my uncle has a wolf pup named Cheyenne, I hope something like that never happens to him.
7/17/2006 9:02:24 PM
Quote doggylove101:
I doubt THAT would ever happen from just one dog. Those guys were working as a pack after something upset them.
velmadobe
7/17/2006 9:28:52 PM
Posts: 310
Quote foxfire_ga79:
Right, the combination of pack dynamics and the undomesticated wolf........not a very safe combination. I've almost always had a two dog household.... just occasionaly more when I have a guest :-) But everyone who has more than 2 always caution that once you go past 2 dogs you have to consider the pack dynamics. I can see that somewhat with just 2 dogs.....I'm sure it gets much more complicated the more dogs you have. Too bad.
maoseger1010
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7/17/2006 9:34:46 PM
Posts: 6947
Although I agree pack mindset is likly to have played into this attack. Lone attacks have happened with hybred wolf/dogs. Children,pets have been attacked by a lone dog loose and hunting.
emlee3
7/17/2006 10:34:42 PM
Posts: 2084
Quote velmadobe:
my half brother was attacked by 5 stray dogs when he was younger. luckily he survived but with major injuries. you never know with dogs i've heard some vicious stories about dogs attacking humans. there was one i saw in my allure magazine it was about the lady who had a face transplant i'm sure some of you know but she had taken sleeping pills (i believe she was trying to kill herself) and her lab chewed her face off..she woke up and realized half of her face was gone. no one knows why the dog did it...but he was later euthanized.
funnybunny
7/17/2006 10:47:29 PM
Posts: 5770
Quote emlee3:
There was a photo I found in Google (not trying to look for it of course) and it showed a couple of dogs laying next to their owner. He apparently died of a heart attack, and they began eating him. The theory was that animals try to protect the bodies of their humans by eating them. I'm not sure, but that is what some have said. Many times when animals know they will die, they will run off and hide, protecting their bodies. Maybe that is what they were doing with the person you specified, and with the man I did. This is a very sad story. It could be that she died from something prior to them doing what they did, but of course nobody will know until the autopsy is done. Tragic...
maggiedoodle
7/17/2006 10:49:57 PM
Posts: 515
could this sort of thing happen with more then 2 small dogs?? just curious??
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7/17/2006 11:22:37 PM
Ok, I have 3 ginormous Pyrs. What do I need to start considering? The living arrangment is Mahtob and Lothar are inseparable. Together since puppyhood and only 4 months difference in age. Rudie doesn't hang around with them much, but lots of times is out in their yard with them. They are all 2 1/2 years old. It's pretty funny to go out at feeding times and have nearly 300 lbs of dog jumping against me (they don't jump up ON me, but raise up and bump into me sideways just because they can't handle being in complete self control lol) all vying for attention. Is there behavior I should watch for? I don't think little dogs would attack a person like that. Could be wrong though. I do know though that there was a case where this old woman had an insane number of Chihuahuas and although they didn't attack her, they did kill alot of their own kind territorially within the household. I think she had something like a 100. I'll have to see if I can find that article again....
7/17/2006 11:34:59 PM
I wouldn't worry about your Pyrenees'. They seem very harmless. Bumping is commonly used by specific breeds, such as the Pyrs when herding. The dogs will always have herding instincts. I find this different than jumping on you which can lead to dominance problems if not corrected. All of the dogs could simply be trying to herd you to one area. I've encountered the same thing with two English Sheepdogs. It's natural, which is what I would think this is, since they are simply bumping you sideways rather than directly jumping on you. I could be wrong about this and I cannot be 100% certain because I cannot see the dogs exhibiting the behavior, however it sounds that way, so I wouldn't worry myself sick over it. As for the smaller dogs, something like this is very rare. I've only heard of the choice few stories of people being attacked by their OWN pack of dogs. However, packs can be very dangerous. With two small dogs, you shouldn't worry about it at all. Smaller dogs would be very easy to fight off for one, two, I really don't think with all of the socialization they should be getting that they would exhibit any pack behavior.
7/18/2006 7:21:53 AM
Quote funnybunny:
Yea bumping is really all I get. On occasion one of them will be in a mood where they REALLY want to jump up on me to say hello, so they'll sit down and put their front paws up on me. You can tell they want to cut loose and go wild, but they're just too dignified! lol And I can just immagine a fericious pack of like 5 poodles going into rage/attack mode and shredding someone's jeans. lol. Not funny, but funny.
7/18/2006 8:15:08 AM
the way your Pyrs get along IS the pack dynamics ......with you as the leader. My two are still kind of slugging it out to see who comes out on top........they each have areas where they are top dog. My younger bitch has a stronger personality and most likely will come out on top once she is totally mature. I have to accept that or else we will have chaos........even though I'd like to see my older bitch as top dog. So if I were to bring a 3rd dog into the mix, I'd have to consider what that might do to the pack dynamic I have already. That is what I meant.
7/18/2006 12:33:28 PM
Mattress will sometimes get TOO excited and can't help herself so she insists that she has to jump on me, even though she knows it's a no no. I correct her though, so all is well. That put the strangest image in my head...Poodles I've been bitten by a very small dog at one point, and a bigger dog as well. The small dog didn't really do any damage other than maybe a few scratches that didn't even bleed. The bigger dog was CJ, the one that bit me about 5-6 times her entire stay here lol. Now THOSE bites definitely hurt.
doggypassion
7/18/2006 12:48:56 PM
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So if you have like 3 dogs, do you need to worry about them attacking you if they get upset... because they act as a pack? I thought we domesticated the dog, and also, with proper training knowing you're the alpha, and if they really care for you, I don't understand why having 3 DOMESTICATED dogs in the house could pose a threat?
7/18/2006 1:05:24 PM
Doggypassion: They pose a threat simply because they are DOGS. They are not humans, they are not wolves. Dogs still have a pack mentality, this has NOT ever been bred out of them. Dogs are not solitary creatures unlike the fox and the cyote, etc. ANY dog can become dangerous or angry and act out a bit harsher then he/she normally would under a unusual circumstance, much like a human could harm or kill someone if the right reason came along. But dogs do not have the ability to REASON, so the chance of them leashing out on a bad day is highetned. This is a very simplified way to explain why even domesticated dogs are dangerous. An update for this story, it was found that the wolves/hybrids did indeed kill her. And the only domestic dogs on her property were rotties. They do not yet know what the genetic make up is of the pups.
7/18/2006 1:48:25 PM
Quote doggypassion:
No! This is more about the dynamics of how they relate to each other. Attacks on humans are very rare. Pack behavior can be a contributing factor in some of them. It really is not something to worry about. your chances of being struck and killed by lightening are MUCH higher than being attacked by a pack of dogs. Ugghhh I'm sorry I ever responded to this.
7/18/2006 1:58:28 PM
Don't be sorry, I was just confused. Sorry if I upset you, I had just honestly never heard that before. Just because I was thinking about owning 3 dogs at some point, and when you said that I got nervous. That's all.
7/18/2006 2:32:17 PM
Quote angelzoo:
I agree.
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