| sassee2005 |
| Posted 11/30/2005 2:33:16 PM |
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I know what that AKC stands for American Kennel Club, but I'm unsure of the CKC. Also, I was wondering I have a female Boxer that is full blood, but the problem is the dad was AKC(deceased before she was born) and the mother had no papers. Is there anyway to get her and her pups registered and about how much. She's not due till Dec.18-19.
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| Wando2000 |
| Posted 11/30/2005 9:19:02 PM |
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Apparantly there's two CKC. One is the Canadian Kennel Club, the other is something I can't remember, lol (but it's the bad kind) |
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| MaryAndDobes |
| Posted 11/30/2005 11:44:53 PM |
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| Quote sassee2005: I know what that AKC stands for American Kennel Club, but I'm unsure of the CKC. Also, I was wondering I have a female Boxer that is full blood, but the problem is the dad was AKC(deceased before she... |
If the mother of your Dog was not registered, there are no papers to be had for your dog.
You can not AKC register her for any money. Both parents must be registered. |
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| gbat1stop |
| Posted 12/1/2005 8:38:21 AM |
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Here is a link for the CKC (Continental Kennel Club) Here it will tell you how your Dog can be registered with them. The AKC (preferred by most breeders) will not register a Dog unless it comes from two registered parents.
http://www.continentalkennelclub.com/Registration.... |
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| gbat1stop |
| Posted 12/1/2005 8:49:16 AM |
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| Quote Wando2000: Apparantly there's two CKC. One is the Canadian Kennel Club, the other is something I can't remember, lol (but it's the bad kind) |
Actually, there are many different CKC registries out there and you need to know which CKC a Dog is registered with. The Canadian Kennel Club should not be confused with the Continental Kennel Club as they are two totally different registries. |
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| sashua |
| Posted 12/2/2005 12:20:24 AM |
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| Quote Wando2000: Apparantly there's two CKC. One is the Canadian Kennel Club, the other is something I can't remember, lol (but it's the bad kind) |
What is "the bad kind"? What makes it bad? |
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| gbat1stop |
| Posted 12/2/2005 8:30:21 AM |
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| Quote sashua: What is "the bad kind"? What makes it bad? |
The Continental Kennel Club will basically register dogs through pictures alone. If it looks like a certain breed in pictures, it can be registered as that breed. There is no guarantee that the CKC (Continental) Dog you receive will be a purebred dog.
The Canadian Kennel Club is much like the AKC but it is Canadian.
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 12/2/2005 8:36:09 AM |
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| Quote gbat1stop: The Continental Kennel Club will basically register dogs through pictures alone. If it looks like a certain breed in pictures, it can be registered as that breed. There is no guarantee that the CKC (Continental)... |
I despise the Continental Kennel Club but unfortunately, that is all my Miniature Pinscher can be registered with. Because her mother was not AKC registered, she cannot be registered either. I have heard of pet stores selling mixed breed Puppies and getting them registered with the CKC. This is disturbing because of the fact that if someone wants a purebred Dog and sees on the papers that this is the breed they are looking for they will surely find out later that it is not a purebred at all, but a mixed breed. The CKC just doesn't care who they register as long as they get the 15 dollars to do it. |
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| sassee2005 |
| Posted 12/2/2005 5:24:38 PM |
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thank you very much i didn't realize that there were two kinds of CKC's. I appreciate all the help you have given us
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| getpaid |
| Posted 12/9/2005 12:36:12 AM |
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CKC is still a new club, AKC had to start somewhere, and as to AKC papers, it is just that a paper trail, they do not need to see the pictures of the dogs to register, just the papers from the parents? As far as breed standard, and the AKC, There are many dogs out there that are AKC registerd that may have had a great looking bloodline 20 yrs ago, but to look at some of them now they are purebred junk, but yet still have AKC papers, My inlaws bought a ACK Rottweiler with Champ bloodline, and it is far from Rottweiler standard, it is under 19 inch at the shoulders, way to small, and it act more like a husky then a rottweiler. So I fill that AKC does not mean anything to what the Dog will become. You need to take a hard look at both of the parents to get an idea what the puppy will turn out to be. I have seen, and own 2 CKC Rottweilers, that would beat most AKC Rotts anyday hands down, as far as true standard, I promise you. I have known this breed for a very long time, and train them in protection. CKC is not all that bad, and yes I am talking about the Continential Kennel Club. Go to there website yourself to learn more, and not some AKC breed owner, upset because there are other Clubs that are now outselling there AKC dogs. The papers don't mean anything, if you know what you are looking for, you be the judge on the dogs parents. And no the CKC (the bad one) lol does not just register any Dog that kinda looks like the breed, they use computer photo imageing to but the Dog against breed standard, and if there is any conflict, they have D.N.A. testing done before you can register with them. And for the person that said all you have to do is send in $15 , they know nothing about it at all, or they would know that is is only $10. lol |
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| getpaid |
| Posted 12/9/2005 12:48:21 AM |
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As for the person with the purebred Boxer that is missing the registration papers, if you want, send in your pictures to the CKC, and talk to them on the phone( they are very friendly). If your Dog is a full bred boxer, you should have no problem with getting it resisterd. And do not fill bad what so ever if you breed, and charge just as much as, if not more then the people selling ACK dogs, I do. I promise,if your boxers are true to breed standard, people will give top dollar for them, if you show them both parents, and promote the CKC club, they are good people. |
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| protodog |
| Posted 12/9/2005 1:11:14 AM |
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AFTER the mom and her pups have been spayed/neutered, they can be registered individually with the AKC through the Indefinite Listing Privilege (ILP) program. This program allows spayed/neutered dogs who are purebred (or at least appear to be) to participate in obedience and agility events. dogs with an ILP number, however, cannot compete in conformation. |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 12/9/2005 9:06:23 AM |
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| Quote getpaid: CKC is still a new club, AKC had to start somewhere, and as to AKC papers, it is just that a paper trail, they do not need to see the pictures of the dogs to register, just the papers from the parents?... |
No Dog is junk. What a terrible thing to say, especially on an animal lovers forum. Just because a Dog is a purebred, that does not make it any more precious or special than a mixed breed. They all have different personalities, different feelings, and they are all very loyal. Don't say something like that...that's horrible 
As for selling the Puppies for top dollar because the parents are registered, that is not true. I was a breeder for quite a while and it's not always a piece of cake. I sold mine for the same price, even if they were believed to be show quality when they matured, full vet records, health certificate, shots, etc. and the only reason I always had a home for mine is because I would plan it months and months before momma's heat cycle. I would have a list of about 10 people because naturally some forget about it later on and no longer want one, and I always had a home for my babies. When someone is going to spend 1000 dollars on a dog, I think they would want it AKC registered if they are looking into a purebred. Mixed breeds are different. I know at least if I was looking for a purebred pup and spending top dollar for one, I would want him/her AKC registered. They are more secure than CKC. What about the people that bought bulldogs and turns out they were a mix yet still CKC registered as a bulldog? What about the Chihuahua's that turn up to be mixed but still registered with CKC? You're not secure with them. That's the bottom line. |
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| getpaid |
| Posted 12/9/2005 2:22:21 PM |
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Maybe it is just that my dogs, are CKC, and they are very true to standard? more so then most AKC. I did not mean that unstandard dogs are junk dogs, but I was trying to get a point across that is just because it is regesterd with AKC or CKC or UKC or not, it is the dogs parents that the Puppies will most likely look like, and not a paper. I have never known any Dog to look like paper. I also have had mixed dogs in my life before, and they are some of the best dogs out there. So if the Dog is AKC, and looks great buy it, but do not count out other clubs, before you buy. This is what some substandard AKC owners want you to do, buy there Dog just because it is AKC? Its you Dog you be the judge, just judge the parents more so then the club it is registerd with. Because beleave me all Clubs AKC or not have questionalbe Dog in them. |
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| getpaid |
| Posted 12/9/2005 2:22:32 PM |
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Maybe it is just that my dogs, are CKC, and they are very true to standard? more so then most AKC. I did not mean that unstandard dogs are junk dogs, but I was trying to get a point across that is just because it is regesterd with AKC or CKC or UKC or not, it is the dogs parents that the Puppies will most likely look like, and not a paper. I have never known any Dog to look like paper. I also have had mixed dogs in my life before, and they are some of the best dogs out there. So if the Dog is AKC, and looks great buy it, but do not count out other clubs, before you buy. This is what some substandard AKC owners want you to do, buy there Dog just because it is AKC? Its your Dog you be the judge, just judge the parents more so then the club it is registerd with. Because beleave me all Clubs AKC or not have questionalbe dogs in them. |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 12/9/2005 2:31:00 PM |
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You cannot say that they are more true to standard than most dogs registered with the AKC. I have seen some beautiful Rottweilers in the Eukanuba Dog shows that would blow any other out of the water. You also don't know what is out there. There could be a Dog above all of the rest that could win the entire title but is not being shown. One that could be neutered that could be beautiful and above the rest as well. The CKC is a shady registry. They do not care who they register. Yeah you may have beautiful Rottweilers, I have a beautiful Miniature Pinscher, but that does not make the registry any better. Ginger is from an AKC bloodline with two parents only registered with the CKC. You can look at the parents of the Dog and say "Hey, mine might look like that" but you don't know for sure. I sure don't look like anyone in my family, yet I am from both of my parents. There are mixed breeds that look like purebreeds that the CKC will register. There are many mixed breeds in pet stores that are registered with the CKC. That tells you something. They are puppy mill Puppies. probably sick, poorly bred, mixed breeds, but the CKC will still register them. |
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| getpaid |
| Posted 12/9/2005 5:08:07 PM |
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Come on Funnybunny , I never said that CKC is better, just that my
CKC rotts are more to standard then most AKC , is that to hard to beleave? I said most , that does not say all. |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 12/9/2005 5:15:40 PM |
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Quote getpaid: Come on Funnybunny , I never said that CKC is better, just that my
CKC rotts are more to standard then most AKC , is that to hard to beleave? I said most , that does not say all. |
How do you know if they are even better than most? You are not qualified to judge the breed standard, just what it says on their website. You also have not seen most of the dogs registered with the AKC. Do you know how popular Rottweilers are? Do you know how many of them are show quality? There are millions of dogs registered with the AKC that are show quality, but not put in shows. There is no possible way you could say that. |
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| doxiedaddy |
| Posted 12/9/2005 5:16:04 PM |
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Hey getpaid, post some pics of your dogs!!!!!!!!
Let us see how wonderful they look! |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 12/9/2005 5:25:13 PM |
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Quote doxiedaddy: Hey getpaid, post some pics of your dogs!!!!!!!!
Let us see how wonderful they look! |
Most others have no problem posting pictures of their dogs. |
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