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Good Gaurd Dogs?? |
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| NubsLove |
| Posted 11/30/2005 1:54:01 AM |
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As you can tell, Im new here. I a member of other forums, and just happened to come across this one. Im not, however, new to Dog breeds (my aunt is a breeder). Ive heard about certain dogs being "gaurd dog" specific, such as German Shephard, Mastiffs, etc. I have a Lhasa Apso who is, by nature, a loyal and protective little guy. BUT, he is a 15 pound, three-legged fluffball. LOL. I was wondering if anyone had any first-hand knowledge/info on any breeds who might be better suited  for watching the house for me AND Nubs. Thanks!! |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 11/30/2005 8:16:41 AM |
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I can't say specifics as there are too many breeds to list that all have good qualities but here is a list of dogs that are known to be good guard dogs. Just click on the name and it will give you the information about each breed.
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/guarddogs.htm |
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| NubsLove |
| Posted 11/30/2005 4:22:20 PM |
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 Great list! Thanks for your help! |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 11/30/2005 5:03:18 PM |
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No problem. Hope it helps in your search |
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| soft4labs |
| Posted 11/30/2005 6:49:16 PM |
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i would like to reccomend from my own experience the best "guard dog" you find is the shelter Dog that you rescued from "death row" they seem to know what you've done for them and my Libby(a death row rescue) actually protects me with her life. she is actually a very sweet and gentle dog(or horse as her daddy likes to call her) but when someone she doesn't know comes over she turns into Cujo. her hair stands on end she bears her teeth and barks her deepest meanest bark all the while she's standing on my feet it's as if she's saying "get away from her or i'll rip your throat out"
ps...mastiff's are big push-overs, they do however make pretty good safety devices do to their size. |
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| Wando2000 |
| Posted 11/30/2005 9:16:28 PM |
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I think any Dog breed can be a good guard dog. A good guard Dog won't be guarding the property or the house, he'll be guarding his owner. dogs chained out in the backyard for the sole purpose of being a guard Dog aren't going to do a very good job, because he doesn't have any connection to the human inside the house, so therefore why would he care if the intruder breaks in? On the other hand, he will be guarding the yard (because it's HIS yard) and if he's particular mean looking, intruders may change their minds about breaking in (or they'll just go around to the front door, lol)
I've read so many stories about little poodles and Chi's who've attacked burglers who've broken in and are threatening the dog's owner, as well as bigger dogs like St. Bernards and Great Danes who've attacked intruders. Any Dog who cares for his owner will try to protect the owner, even some of the really shy dogs who usually hide at any loud noise, lol
I have an Australian Shepherd/Border Collie mix who doesn't look at all threatening, but he's very protective. He knows when someone's walking up the front steps and he'll be attentive. When the doorbell rings he starts "woo-woo-wooing" and running to the door. If someone goes into the backyard, Jake hears the gate open, and then it's the same "woo-woo-wooing". When we're on a walk at night and Jake sees someone in the distance, hidden by shadow, he spooks and starts the woo-woo-wooing, which can be embarrassing when the person is a harmless old lady or young child. A few times I've come home from school or the store and Jake has started woo-woo-wooing before I've even gotten anywhere near the steps. He must be able to hear my footsteps, which probably sound weird and heavier since I'm lugging a backpack or 3 heavy grocery bags, lol |
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| NubsLove |
| Posted 11/30/2005 9:45:07 PM |
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| Quote soft4labs: i would like to reccomend from my own experience the best "guard dog" you find is the shelter Dog that you rescued from "death row" they seem to know what you've done for them and my Libby(a death row... |
Thats a very good idea. I never thought about that. Im not "breed picky" either, so Ill check it out! Thanks! |
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| NubsLove |
| Posted 11/30/2005 9:51:51 PM |
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| Quote Wando2000: I think any Dog breed can be a good guard dog. A good guard Dog won't be guarding the property or the house, he'll be guarding his owner. dogs chained out in the backyard for the sole purpose of being... |
 Nubs is VERY protective of me. Maybe its just his nature, but I like to think its because he was sort of a little loaner back at the kennel, lol, with the other Puppies jumping when a person comes near, Nubs would just stand back, not wanting to get hurt, and wait for me to come pick him up. Then he would shower me with kisses...still does. I'm just worried because of his size and, well, the lil fella gets around great, but he IS somewhat limited. I am heartbroken at the thought of someone taking advantage of that. Plus, I LOVE a new puppy to teach and love!  ok, so i put that in there because its pretty darn funny! |
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| getpaid |
| Posted 12/9/2005 2:38:30 PM |
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Active: 12-08-2005
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Ok so yes all dogs can bark, and bite someone. If you want a real GUARD DOG, and not a watch dog, there is a differance. Then that is easy, get a breed that was made with just this in mind, and has been proven for many yrs. Most dogs can, and do scare away most intruders, but what about the 250lb man that is high on crack, or meth, who could care less about a barking 40 lb. dog. Or any Dog for that matter, is is high, and is not rationally thinking, he will knock you little 40lb er across the room, while you watch, and will not fill its bite. So to be safe from the high on drugs man, you really need a man stoping dog. A Rottweiler is best hands down for this job, and will not back down ever if you are in trouble, you do not even have to train it to do this, it will, because this Dog was breed over , and over for this work. And if raised from a puppy, he or she will never let you down. I am sure that other dogs will try to protect you, but I promise if it is not a substantial sized dog, breed to protect you , it will just be knocked out of the way, unless the intruder is a 90lb old lady. |
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| getpaid |
| Posted 12/9/2005 2:53:06 PM |
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Rottweilers are even known to take 2 shots from a 9mm gun, and keep on the intruder. They will not stop when they fill there owner is threatend. They are not killers by nature, they are kind, just very protective. I have own many breeds probly would try to stop someone. I know this one can do it. They have a bite 5 times of a German Sheperd(also a good guard dog). And are not the largest breed, but they are the strongest, and where breed for family protection, cart pulling, and guarding flock. The Romans trusted them for this, and they are still best at it today. Other breeds have used the rottweiler in there make up to become more protective, way not just use what you know will work , and you will never ask again if your Dog can protect you, you will know it. If the gun is anything over a 9mm, and the intruder is not to high to use it, then good luck. No Dog can save you from that, you just use your gun 1st. And someone high on meth, can take a few low cal shots sometimes, and keep comming. So get a AK 47,(I bought one) or prob best a 00 shot in a shot gun, plus your Rott, High or not, the man will go down. |
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| mistyz23 |
| Posted 12/9/2005 2:53:32 PM |
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| ambulldogpup |
| Posted 12/9/2005 3:02:00 PM |
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American Bulldogs are also good guard dogs. They were bred to kill bull even when bleeding to death. They are very friendly and adore children. |
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| getpaid |
| Posted 12/9/2005 3:04:26 PM |
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Yes this is true, they are also good. I love that breed as well. Very nice looking, and great with kids. Like any Dog that is raised around kids. |
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| FunnyBunny |
| Posted 12/9/2005 5:35:31 PM |
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Rottweiler's can be good guard dogs yes but so can German Shepherd's as well as Pitbull Terriers. Pitbulls are naturally intimidating to some people, as well as American Bulldogs. There are many different breeds that can make good guard dogs. If you have children, I would suggest a regular barking dog, not one that is trained to bite if they feel you are threatened or they are. That can be disasterous later on. |
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| NubsLove |
| Posted 12/10/2005 12:44:33 AM |
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Misty, it wouldnt let me quote for some reason , but that is a beautiful dog! And thanks to everyone else for your suggestions. I am hesitant, however, about the Rott. I know they do make great gaurd dogs, but Ive heard of many who have turned on their owners. I dont mean to discriminate, and i know that all breeds are probably capable of doing this, but my main concern is not for myself, its for Nubs. He is 20 pounds and three-legged. When I puppysit for my dad's 3 yr old boxer, Nubs gets a little wary. I think it is possibly because I brought him home a scared, withdrawn pup, and have loved him unconditionally, so he is very protective. Risking sounding very ammature, lol, I ask this, are females as reliable as males as far as gaurd dogs go? Nubs loves my sister's female Shar Pei, in a non-relationship way LOL.
Also, I wanted everyone to know that Im not just in search of a "gaurd dog" to sit by the door, drool, and get yelled at. I have a pudding heart for dogs. Didnt want to come across as a whip-slashing mommy! |
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| 4EverAndaDay |
| Posted 12/10/2005 2:10:25 AM |
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Active: 11-13-2005
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We have an AB (American Bulldog) and a Pei (Chinese Shar Pei). Both are pure-bred, and are excellent guard-dogs.
Our Pei has the natural instincts to scout, and is usually 1st at the scene of the crime (so-to-speak). He is nothing short of Warner-Brothers 'Tazmanian Devil'... Seriously! He's a little trouble maker w/ BiGG teeth.
Our AB, well, let me allow myself to brag a bit... He's not the kinda Dog you'd like to try to get off of your "face", literally. I'm not too sure about other AB's, but ours LOVE's to go for the face. He absolutely loves to hit me "head-on" right on my grill/mug, which is basically my NOSE, or mouth.
There's a whole intersting history behind the breed and their ancestors, but to cut to the chase, "i feel sorry for whomever learns this the hard way!!".
With me, it's just all fun and games... Ohh, i also go for 2, 3, or 4 mile non-stop jogs frequently, and both my boys are right there with me every step.
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| getpaid2 |
| Posted 12/10/2005 10:07:31 AM |
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Ok so you want to have a watch Dog then? looks like you already have one. I thought that you wanted a guard Dog breed. There are lots of dogs that can be a great watch dog. A minature pincher is a good choice they bark alot and actualy are a somewhat fearless. If you want a Dog to protect you , and your family, that will not ever turn on you, unless you beat it and make it do so. Get a Rottweiler puppy to grow up with your other dog, they are great with the family and if you get a puppy it will love , and also protect your other dog, they use to use them not only to protect families in Germany, but also sheep and other farm animals, they will protect whatever they grow up with. My wife use to be just a scared as most others, about the breed, but now she would never trust any other breed more so with our 4 kids, cat , and other dogs. The prob is when you get an adult that was not raised up right. Learn more about this great breed, that just wants are love, and to give its life for us, and the more you do, the less fearfull you will be of it, unless you are the intruder, and if you are God help you. This Dog will not let anything happen to the ones it loves. I have also owned a Pitbull in the past, and yes it can take on other dogs, but if it came down to it , I am not as sure if it could handle an out of his mind 250 lb. meth freak that want's to kill everyone in site. I do know that my Rotts would. Anyone that is serious about looking for a guard Dog will not look at any other breed. But maybe you should have posted that you wanted a good watch dog. There are lots , and lots of great breeds out there that can be great watch dogs, and actualy a Rottweiler is not on the top of that list, because they are not as fast to bark as some other breeds are. They are more of a wait and see dog, but you will know if it does not like what it sees. |
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| foxfire_ga79 |
| Posted 12/10/2005 7:01:50 PM |
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Well, so far nobody has mentioned Great Pyrenees! They're not your typical guard dog. Farmers can tell you lots of good things about Pyrs. Minimal training, they seem to know exactly what to do. I don't know of any information about them attacking even after having been shot twice, but if you're up against that kind of thing I recommend something better than a dog! LOL! Pyrenees were bred to guard flocks of sheep in the Pyrenean Mountains bordering France. They were made tough enough to kill the wolves and bears in that area. Unlike many of the other guard dogs people think of today, Pyrs don't scare everybody off. They only act when needed. Since you're not looking to guard live-stock (I'm assuming??), you can certainly trust a Pyr in an animal shelter, and not have to worry about it's past and whether it will turn on you. |
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| getpaid3 |
| Posted 12/11/2005 8:11:26 AM |
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Yes I know of this breed very well , I own a Rottweiler that is mixed with one. His name is Buck. I breed rottweilers, but I also own a couple of mixes, not from my rotts, but they where our pets before I started breeding rotts. Buck is the largest Dog I own, and loves the snow, he is awsome with my kids, and would never hurt any of them, he loves to run, and swim in our pond, he is the only Dog that I leave loose outside at night, he will not run off, and we live over a 1/2 mile off the road. This Dog protects the property outside, and the colder it gets the happier he gets, his coat is very thick. I do not know for sure if he would stand his ground from a real threat, but if you trace history back these two breeds are related to the same dogs that the romans brought to Germany long ago , so I am thinking that they are alot alike, in many ways. |
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| mjanddobes |
| Posted 12/11/2005 8:43:46 AM |
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"you can certainly trust a Pyr in an animal shelter, and not have to worry about it's past and whether it will turn on you."
I was going to let this whole discussion on "Guard" dogs go because I didn't want to get into it, but the above statement is just too ignorent to ignore - not to mention dangerous. ANY BREED can be dangerous - not a single one is exempt. If a Dog is raised incorrectly it does not matter if it is a Pitbull or a poodle, it can bite. When you adopt an unknown Dog from a shelter, you always have to take the time to carefully get to know them - thinking that they are a "good" Dog just because of the breed is not an assumption anyone should make.
In addition, all most people need in a guard Dog is just a Dog that will bark when someone comes on the property. Looking for a Dog that will "take on" an intruder is not something the average family should need or want. Because guess what? The person the Dog "takes on" may be a child coming to sell girl scout cookies, a UPS man or anyone else that innocently wanders onto your property. With the state of todays insurance legislation, BSL legislation, and people who are only too happy to sue you for real or imagined issues, having a truly dangerous Dog is something you don't need.
I have temperament tested Dobermans - my adult WILL take on someone who phyically threatens me (and has the title to prove it). She also happily lets total strangers come into the house with nothing more than a sniff and greeting - including the pet sitter who comes when I am not home. Kids come in and out of my apparently revolving front door all the time - I never have to worry that one of my Dobermans will mistake them for an "intruder". I don't consider my dogs to be "Guard Dogs"; they are family members (who happen to live in the house BTW - not a kennel outside in the cold)who are also protective if needed & bark to let me know that someone is passing by the house. |
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