| madamebrodysmom |
| Posted 8/3/2005 1:31:23 PM |
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i am a stay at home mom looking for some extra income while doing something that i enjoy. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about how mich Dog breeders make? I ask this b/c I want to know if the proft will be worth the time and energy put into it and whether it would suit the income needs. I'm not looking for a huge pay check, just a little on the side. Do most Dog breeders keep their dogs inside or out or the house? Live in the country away from neighbors or in city with close neighbors? please help! I am looking into breeding Daschunds. I have a mini named brody.
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| focusonme |
| Posted 8/3/2005 6:29:48 PM |
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Most breeders make in the negatives. A good breeder will tell you right off the bat that they do it to better the breed. Their dogs have proven themselves in the show ring, in their bloodlines and everything and everywhere else. No, not all show and that's okay. BUT your Dog must prove themselves (working dogs out in the field for instance can prove they have what it takes to produce good lines by doing what comes naturally VERY well and with little work.) in their physical stature (their certifications will prove that one way or the other) and in their temperment.
There is a LOT to breeding. People who take "Joey and Suzy" out and breed them just because they're AKC registered and are cute together are NOT thinking of the breed. There are certifications to be had, homework on the stud or female to be bred TO, supplies to be bought, vet visits throughout the pregnancy, proper care for mom during the pregnancy and all sorts of costs involved. BIG financial obligations.
The only people I personally know of that DO make some money at breeding is backyard breeders and puppymills. They don't do the certifications on the dogs, they don't make the dogs prove themselves, they set up some half butt set up for the pups which can endanger them AND mama. They don't put guarantees on their pups and on and on. They're in it for the money and that's it! Nope, IMO WAY wrong reason to breed. Hope I gave you something to think about! |
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| animalluver8 |
| Posted 8/3/2005 7:14:01 PM |
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| Quote focusonme: Most breeders make in the negatives. A good breeder will tell you right off the bat that they do it to better the breed. Their dogs have proven themselves in the show ring, in their bloodlines and everything... |
 Focusonme has made some excellent points. Breeding is very expensive if done right and most breeders who are responsible and breed to improve the breed do not usually make a lot of extra money.
Like focusonme said, finding the right dogs to breed, making sure the male and female have all the right vaccinations, and testing them for inheritant diseases is crucial, and very expensive. Then you have to care for the bitch and the Puppies.that's where the big vet bills come in),register the litter--which costs money, and worm and vaccinate the pups. And most of this is only starting. Breeding is a BIG responsibility and should not be taken lightly, especially if you are not experienced. |
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| AnAsAzi |
| Posted 8/3/2005 8:25:15 PM |
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Oh Boy! I see this thread going south..  |
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| envypoodlecollection |
| Posted 8/3/2005 8:49:18 PM |
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Ha, Dani! My thoughts EXACTLY. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut on this one...  |
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| sandmama |
| Posted 8/3/2005 10:27:23 PM |
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Hooray Focusonme!!
You gave some WONDERFUL info in a really positive and productive way. I knew this was why I kept hanging out on the forum!!
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| MiaPicina |
| Posted 8/3/2005 10:31:19 PM |
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| Quote madamebrodysmom: i am a stay at home mom looking for some extra income while doing something that i enjoy. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about how mich Dog breeders make? I ask this b/c I want to know if the... |
boy oh boy you hit this forum with a loaded question? now you;ll get 20 pages of answers as to why you shouldnt be a breeder. i feel for you |
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| devilsbabigurrl |
| Posted 8/3/2005 10:36:10 PM |
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I recommend you breeding only you have the energy, patience, MONEY and the dedication. It takes a LOT of these. |
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| MaryAndDobes |
| Posted 8/3/2005 11:50:47 PM |
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| Quote madamebrodysmom: i am a stay at home mom looking for some extra income while doing something that i enjoy. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about how mich Dog breeders make? I ask this b/c I want to know if the... |
If my husband didn't have a great job, I could not be a breeder.
The last 3 years, we have LOST between $15,000-$20,000 per year on our dogs in expenses for food, vet care, full and proper health testing for our breed, showing, trialing, training, whelping, stud fees, toys/bones, beds, blankets, etc etc.
We do not scrimp on Dog care and we try to do right by our breed, by our dogs and by the Puppies we produce.
I wouldn't advise anyone to get into breeding for money. |
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| Kayzhond |
| Posted 8/4/2005 12:25:27 AM |
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There's 3 things every breeder breeds for - temprement, health, and conformation. Everyone who wants to breed needs to ask themselves: What does my Dog have that is worthy of breeding it? The question should be asked because when a person breeds they're breeding to improve the overall quality of the breed they're breeding. Breeding is a skill that takes years and years to perfect. It requires a lot of knowledge to do it properly. Breeding takes TONS of research, not to mention - dedication and money.
You might be thinking that not all dogs are bred for show quality and what ever happened to breeding for just a fun loving pet. But, breeding is not a 'business' that a responsible and dedicated canine enthusiast 'gets into'. And absolutely NO responsible and ethical breeder breeds for 'fun, loving pets'. When they breed, they breed to better their own lines and they keep the standard in front of them at all times. They strive for healthy, structurally and temperamentally sound dogs who exemplify the breed standard. Pet quality pups are a given in any breeding program and SHOULD NOT be bred.
A person that truly wants to breed for the RIGHT reasons has usually been in the breed and has real experience with the breed (meaning they know the standard back to front). They have shown dogs of that breed and have attended many, many Dog shows - whether for conformation or field.
The bottom line: If it isn't to improve the breed - don't breed.
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 8/4/2005 4:42:50 AM |
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Alot goes into breeding dogs, cats, birds...whatever people want to breed. Testing for genetic abnormalities is a big must. It would be really sad to know that a Dog you produced had some kind of disorder and you made a few dollars off that dog. And someones child somewhere in the world had to be told that their new puppy had to be euthanized.
Where was that forum name what had the Save a Pet Poem in it?  |
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| DIGGERkristin |
| Posted 8/4/2005 8:54:18 AM |
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if you have the money to invest and the time to put into it then you should consider it. but it seems like you think its going to be a simple task and some extra money. i personally dont breed, but i read this forum daily and there are alot of breeders on here, and from what they say it doesnt seem to be a profitable venture. best of luck.. |
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| mjanddobes |
| Posted 8/4/2005 9:32:55 AM |
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| Quote madamebrodysmom: i am a stay at home mom looking for some extra income while doing something that i enjoy. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about how mich Dog breeders make? I ask this b/c I want to know if the... |
If you are looking to work out of the home while continuing to be a stay at home Mom, there are a lot of things you can do that would allow you a regular source of income, without the unknowns of breeding - not to mention the ethics involved!
You could take in another child for a working parent. One is usually not too hard to add to your family and it will provide you with a weekly paycheck. If you are a really good typest, and have good vocabulary, you can look into typing dicatation out of your home. There are a lot of alternatives to breeding dogs which quite frankly is a very iffy thing even if you do not take the ethics of breeding into account. |
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| DIGGERkristin |
| Posted 8/4/2005 10:12:51 AM |
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| lucylou2 |
| Posted 8/4/2005 11:10:29 AM |
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I WISH it was that easy to be a stay at home mom and still provide an income for the family. I think most of us would if we could! Unfortunately, there is no easy way to do that. Being an at home mom you are probably already on a tight budget and from what I've read on this forum, breeding isn't something that will fit into a budget very easily. Good luck finding something that will allow you to stay at home. Maybe a part-time job after the husband gets home so you don't have to pay a babysitter. Good luck with whatever you decide..... |
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 8/4/2005 3:19:42 PM |
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I agree. Breeding dogs is very time and money consuming. The monetary profits are often so little or none at all. I had a litter last year and I made no financial gain from the litter. The genetic test are costly, the mother needs to be current on vaccines, the mother needs to have atleast two vet exams during pregnancy, the Puppies need to be examined, dew claws removed, nutritional suppliments for the Puppies. the mother may need nutritional suppliments to keep her healthy and at an appropriate weight while she is nursing her babies, not to mention bottle feedings every two hours, puppy training, there is so much involved in breeding. Most people do not realize that it's not a simple task, or a money making venture. |
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| animalluver8 |
| Posted 8/4/2005 4:15:47 PM |
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| Quote AnAsAzi: Oh Boy! I see this thread going south.. |
That's too funny--you're so right! |
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| mjanddobes |
| Posted 8/4/2005 6:07:20 PM |
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| Quote animalluver8: That's too funny--you're so right! |
Actually, I think everyone has been pretty nice and informative while steering a novice person away from breeding byb dogs. There is nothing wrong with asking a question when you truly don't know the answer. Most people are willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt. It is when they disregard good sound advice that people start getting annoyed.
When my kids were preschool aged, I babysat for a friend 3 days a week - the extra income was very welcome and I was home already so it was not too overwhelming. |
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| hello1all |
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| backyardbreeder |
| Posted 4/28/2008 3:03:59 AM |
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Wow, whats wrong with breeding an average dog(non-champion)for a family to love and care for as a pet. You all make it sound like the regular AKC dogs are a contamination threat to their gene pool.
I thought dogs were "mans best friend" not a "barking trophy" How does breeding the elite circle of show quality dogs help the breed, that's what's known as embreeding. What's best for the breed is owners that treat their "pets" as part of the family and show them love.
Champion Dog shows remind me of children in a pageant (are all the children that don't do pageants ruining the genetics of mankind WTF).
I think that if you do some research on the genetics(some patterns/colors are not compatible) and make sure that the dogs are healthy, happy and go to good homes then go for it. You can make money off of it or people wouldn't do it. Its not a lot though.
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