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envypoodlecollection

6/8/2005 1:09:40 AM

Posts: 902

Well, Science Diet isn't that great... And as far as "rescuing" goes: http://www.canismajor.com/dog/ypeoresc.html#LIars

ppyluv_4

6/8/2005 9:58:00 AM

Posts: 529

Quote envypoodlecollection:

Well, Science Diet isn't that great... And as far as "rescuing" goes: http://www.canismajor.com/dog/ypeoresc.html#LIars
Dang! That hurts I NEVER advertise as a rescuer. I'm just saying that what I do is much better than where they would end up otherwise....... There's no need to try and paint me wicked. Really.

hoss1948

6/8/2005 10:58:30 AM

Posts: 201

Quote anasazi:

lol OMG, finally, someone with a sense of humor on this forum!! Or maybe dem der billybob and billjean spendin too much time together dumpin the trailor sheeter. Bob-e sue is spendin too much time with billybob jr. in da sticks at dat dern still makin greazzz lightnin..
Im sorry that you thank its so funny to put down a region of this country you obviously know nothing about. Looking at where most of the puppy mills are Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, and Pennsylvania you are looking at the wrong region. But let me say this there are a lot of wonderful people living in those states. I live in the panhandle of Florida about three miles from the Alabama line; I was born and raised in southeast Texas. I am Italian and Cajun, thats French for those that dont know any better. My great, great, great grandfather fought with Sam Houston at the Battle of San Jacinto. My wifes great, great, great, great grandfather signed The Declaration of Independence. I have lived all over this great land and I have found a lot of good in it. I have also found a few bigots like you and your friend envypoodlecollection. I have found its best just let them know that I know that they are bigots and then ignore them. And this is what I will do from now on, ignore you. Im really surprised at you Ana. Good by!

envypoodlecollection

6/8/2005 11:11:49 AM

Posts: 902

LOL HICKS live everywhere, Hoss. Lighten up! We weren't attacking "the South," just "uneducated puppymillers/backyard breeders." I loved the Southern states, have traveled through several of them, and just moved back to AZ from FL. We all know that puppymills are concentrated heavily in the Eastern portion of the US, but then they don't all have 100 plus breeding animals, either. Please don't read so much into it and maybe laugh a little instead.

maoseger1010

6/8/2005 11:25:45 AM

Posts: 6985

Quote ppyluv_4:

Dang! That hurts I NEVER advertise as a rescuer. I'm just saying that what I do is much better than where they would end up otherwise....... There's no need to try and paint me wicked. Really.
Your not a rescuer your a broker plain and simple. You make money by getting cheap puppies cleaning them up and selling them to the next person. You say you are saving puppies who will end up in a Pet Store. I really don't see how you are any better or worse than a pet store. How is what you do different? They buy puppies at a lower cost and clean them up and house them and sell them at a higher price. I know you make yourself feel better because you give the puppies blankets and toys and play with them several times a day. That's wonderful but what about their parents? Are they living in wonderful homes with soft beds and lots of toys? OR are they being bred every heat cycle and given little or no health care cheap food and no love? If your able to make a car payment with what you make selling your puppies I'd say your doing pretty good for yourself. Its a win win for you, you get to play with cute little puppies all the time and pay your bills too. Do I think you are a wicked person, no I'm guessing your not, you are just someone who figured out that you could make money this way and are. No better or worse than a pet store.

latemodel55

6/8/2005 1:01:37 PM

Posts: 16

Help! I just started Otis on Science Diet, my mom used it for years but that was long ago. What "is" the best food for my Pug... as for a "middle man/broker" in my purchase situation she said she was selling for a friend and that she didn't breed Pugs, so that was my lack of knowledge. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if someone states exactly what they are doing and provide all the information correctly and exactly where the puppy came from it isn't all that bad to me. Maybe the "brokers" should let you talk to the breeders if you can't. I would have rather got a puppy that I could meet first but here they are in high demand with waiting lists and are very very expensive. This been quite the learning adventure for me. I do love my little pup! Lots

ppyluv_4

6/8/2005 5:56:18 PM

Posts: 529

Quote maoseger1010:

Your not a rescuer your a broker plain and simple. You make money by getting cheap puppies cleaning them up and selling them to the next person. You say you are saving puppies who will end up in a Pet Store. I really don't see how you are any better or worse than a pet store. How is what you do different? They buy puppies at a lower cost and clean them up and house them and sell them at a higher price. I know you make yourself feel better because you give the puppies blankets and toys and play with them several times a day. That's wonderful but what about their parents? Are they living in wonderful homes with soft beds and lots of toys? OR are they being bred every heat cycle and given little or no health care cheap food and no love? If your able to make a car payment with what you make selling your puppies I'd say your doing pretty good for yourself. Its a win win for you, you get to play with cute little puppies all the time and pay your bills too. Do I think you are a wicked person, no I'm guessing your not, you are just someone who figured out that you could make money this way and are. No better or worse than a pet store.
I'm actually not considered a broker at all. I don't have a broker's license. Brokers sell to pet stores. I don't. I do however have a pet store license. But I'm not a commercial pet store where people come in and look at lots of puppies in tiny cages. I don't expect you to agree with what I do and I'm really not looking for your approval. It would REALLY be nice if folks could come on this forum and talk about what they want to talk about without fear of being constantly harrassed. I don't understand why it's allowed.

anasazi

6/9/2005 1:31:02 PM

Posts: 2865

Hoss, sorry you were offended by my post... Obviously youre not comfortble with yourself. Loosen up Buddy... dont be such a tight azz. Dont tell me about bigotry... Im sure youve never experienced it first hand! Having been married to an Asian man for 20 yrs, we've had our fair share of bigots... Guess where we expereinced most of them... Thats right good ol state of TEXAS. Ppyluv, I gotta hand to ya Girl, youve been a good sport.. Youre right, I will never agree with what your doing.. Maybe someday you will come to your senses.

ppyluv_4

6/9/2005 3:45:12 PM

Posts: 529

Quote anasazi:

Hoss, sorry you were offended by my post... Obviously youre not comfortble with yourself. Loosen up Buddy... dont be such a tight azz. Dont tell me about bigotry... Im sure youve never experienced it first hand! Having been married to an Asian man for 20 yrs, we've had our fair share of bigots... Guess where we expereinced most of them... Thats right good ol state of TEXAS. Ppyluv, I gotta hand to ya Girl, youve been a good sport.. Youre right, I will never agree with what your doing.. Maybe someday you will come to your senses.
My senses are good, thanks! And I'm sure yours are too.

sally&alfie

6/10/2005 11:49:48 AM

Posts: 85

How long are we going to continue bashing pupyluv_2? there have been several threads on this forum about her being a bad person, puppy mill, byb and more! she has tried to defend herself on numerous occasions stating that she is not a mill or byb She simply takes dogs/pups into her home feeds, grooms, Loves and takes GOOD care of them. Then she finds the best homes possible for them with familys that are going to love them and take care of them for the rest of their lives! So people don't understand or agree with what she's doing SO WHAT? thats YOUR problem not pupyluvs. imho she has been honest and open about what she does and i feel we all need to grow up and just leave her alone!

maoseger1010

6/10/2005 2:18:37 PM

Posts: 6985

Quote sally&alfie:

How long are we going to continue bashing pupyluv_2? there have been several threads on this forum about her being a bad person, puppy mill, byb and more! she has tried to defend herself on numerous occasions stating that she is not a mill or byb She simply takes dogs/pups into her home feeds, grooms, Loves and takes GOOD care of them. Then she finds the best homes possible for them with familys that are going to love them and take care of them for the rest of their lives! So people don't understand or agree with what she's doing SO WHAT? thats YOUR problem not pupyluvs. imho she has been honest and open about what she does and i feel we all need to grow up and just leave her alone!
"I don't expect you to agree with what I do and I'm really not looking for your approval. It would REALLY be nice if folks could come on this forum and talk about what they want to talk about without fear of being constantly harrassed." I'm sorry if you feel I'm harrassing or bashing you. You said you think of yourself as a rescurer, my post was in responce to that. I don't dislike you or hold out and bad feeling about you and what you do. I have never said you are a bad person. I do not feel you are a bad person. As I stated before you found a way to make money and you are doing it. No where did I say you were bad because of it. I "believe" a rescue is an orginization that saves the lives of abused or near death dogs and cares for them and finds them new homes. The money they make only covers the needs of the shelter and not to pay other bills. That is only my opinion.

sandmama

6/10/2005 2:38:09 PM

Posts: 406

As a new member, just a few days, who came to this site to get REAL information about my new puppy like litter box training, reading already started posts on puppy behavior, types of food etc. I will not be returning much!! What a great place this could be to speak with others who have been there, done that with puppies and dogs of all sizes. However, over half of the threads, with LOTS of responses, are kindof being mean to each other. I have already found great info on this site, such as snuggle puppies, that the general public searching the web would have no way to know about. There are places to debate and places that should be friendly for information and to pass on great animal knowledge to those who REALLY need it. What great support some of them have, like your animal who has recently passed away or looking for help while your dog is litterally giving birth, why keep debating such topics that do not have much grey area. Everyone is going to see something different than everyone else. LET'S KEEP THIS SOMEWHERE ANYONE CAN COME TO TO FIND ACTUAL HELP WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS

anasazi

6/10/2005 5:25:27 PM

Posts: 2865

'she has tried to defend herself on numerous occasions stating that she is not a mill or byb She simply takes dogs/pups into her home feeds, grooms, Loves and takes GOOD care of them. Then she finds the best homes possible for them with familys that are going to love them and take care of them for the rest of their lives!' LOL... Sorry Sally, NO... Puppyluv is a BROKER. Do you know what that is? A broker is the "middle man." They are the ones who buy a puppy from a miller and sell the pup to the pet store, another broker, or directly to the public. A broker will buy a puppy for say $120 from a miller (why millers breed so many puppies - they get little from the pup). Then the broker will sell the pup to a pet shop for a profit. Then the pet shop will sell the puppy to the public for even more. Say a pet shop sells a Shetland Sheepdog pup for $800.00. The miller gets $120 from the broker for every Sheltie sold. In order to make $800.00, the miller has to sell to the broker 7 - 8 Sheltie pups. Ppyluv wants you to think she is rescuing these pups (Which BTW is the typical line these people will give you), but shes merely buying puppies from millers and reselling them. All this time, she led us all to believe she was a dog owner just like the rest of us.. then the truth came out.. Now is that being honest?

ppyluv_4

6/10/2005 8:57:41 PM

Posts: 529

Quote sally&alfie:

How long are we going to continue bashing pupyluv_2? there have been several threads on this forum about her being a bad person, puppy mill, byb and more! she has tried to defend herself on numerous occasions stating that she is not a mill or byb She simply takes dogs/pups into her home feeds, grooms, Loves and takes GOOD care of them. Then she finds the best homes possible for them with familys that are going to love them and take care of them for the rest of their lives! So people don't understand or agree with what she's doing SO WHAT? thats YOUR problem not pupyluvs. imho she has been honest and open about what she does and i feel we all need to grow up and just leave her alone!
Just wanted to say thanks. It's nice to know that someone is finally taking me at my word. I too would like for this to be a place where we can discuss things without all the hatefulness.

ppyluv_4

6/10/2005 9:10:56 PM

Posts: 529

Quote anasazi:

'she has tried to defend herself on numerous occasions stating that she is not a mill or byb She simply takes dogs/pups into her home feeds, grooms, Loves and takes GOOD care of them. Then she finds the best homes possible for them with familys that are going to love them and take care of them for the rest of their lives!' LOL... Sorry Sally, NO... Puppyluv is a BROKER. Do you know what that is? A broker is the "middle man." They are the ones who buy a puppy from a miller and sell the pup to the pet store, another broker, or directly to the public. A broker will buy a puppy for say $120 from a miller (why millers breed so many puppies - they get little from the pup). Then the broker will sell the pup to a pet shop for a profit. Then the pet shop will sell the puppy to the public for even more. Say a pet shop sells a Shetland Sheepdog pup for $800.00. The miller gets $120 from the broker for every Sheltie sold. In order to make $800.00, the miller has to sell to the broker 7 - 8 Sheltie pups. Ppyluv wants you to think she is rescuing these pups (Which BTW is the typical line these people will give you), but shes merely buying puppies from millers and reselling them. All this time, she led us all to believe she was a dog owner just like the rest of us.. then the truth came out.. Now is that being honest?
I guess I'll say it one more time...... I'm not a broker, I DO NOT sell to commercial pet stores. That's where I try to keep a lot of puppies from going.... I have a pet store license which allows me to bring puppies in to my home, etc.......... I WISH I could buy puppies for $120! That would be GREAT!! If you'll read my previous post on this same thread, you'll be able to learn about what I REALLY do! I'm not sure how you feel that I led anyone to believe that I was "just a pet owner". I have asked about different breeds and different situations but I thought that's what this forum was all about - sharing information. I didn't say anything about what I did for a long time because I knew all hell would break loose. And it did. I just thought I'd be the first to step up and talk about a controversial subject - that's all. I consider ALL of my puppies MY pets until they go to their forever homes. I am however wanting to get a Frenchie as a forever pet someday! I'm just waiting for the right one to come along. I'm in no hurry at all..... I don't mind you disagreeing with what I do but there really is a more mature way to discuss it. This is a pet lover's forum, not a show dog forum or a shelter dog forum. If that is all you can regurgitate over and over again, maybe this isn't the right forum for you - I don't know.

ppyluv_4

6/10/2005 9:18:12 PM

Posts: 529

maoseger1010, I really wasn't referring to you. However, in an earlier post, you said that I "buy puppies, clean them up and turn around and sell them". The puppies I buy don't need to be cleaned up. Also, I said I was able to make my car payment and that I put most of the money I make back in to the puppies. You said that if I could make my car payment and PAY MY BILLS, I must be doing okay for myself. I didn't say anything about paying my bills. My husband pays everything else. Facts are facts and if you're going to dispute them, you should get them right first or pretty soon, you'll be having an argument with yourself.

envypoodlecollection

6/10/2005 9:51:34 PM

Posts: 902

Rhandi, you had pretended to be just another owner when you proudly posted about the white Boxer puppy you impulse-purchased "for your nephew" who's mom "wouldn't let him keep it." You even had a page up for the dog at dogster.com. You later advertised the dog here and resold him. That's when someone on the forum figured you out, not when you decided to tell us what you do. Remember?

maoseger1010

6/10/2005 9:52:13 PM

Posts: 6985

Quote ppyluv_4:

maoseger1010, I really wasn't referring to you. However, in an earlier post, you said that I "buy puppies, clean them up and turn around and sell them". The puppies I buy don't need to be cleaned up. Also, I said I was able to make my car payment and that I put most of the money I make back in to the puppies. You said that if I could make my car payment and PAY MY BILLS, I must be doing okay for myself. I didn't say anything about paying my bills. My husband pays everything else. Facts are facts and if you're going to dispute them, you should get them right first or pretty soon, you'll be having an argument with yourself.
I'm glad you don't have to clean up your puppies before you sell them and make a profit. I'm sorry if I miss spoke on that front. I don't know how many times I have to say that I'm guessing you aren't a bad person, you've just found a way to make money selling puppies. If that statement isn't true I'm sorry. No one is trying to make you a victim here.

envypoodlecollection

6/10/2005 10:05:25 PM

Posts: 902

Are the parents of the pups you sell health tested, Rhandi? Also, what does your average Chi pup sell for? I love the pic. of the litter soon-to-be-available and am just curious.

ppyluv_4

6/12/2005 12:08:43 AM

Posts: 529

Quote envypoodlecollection:

Rhandi, you had pretended to be just another owner when you proudly posted about the white Boxer puppy you impulse-purchased "for your nephew" who's mom "wouldn't let him keep it." You even had a page up for the dog at dogster.com. You later advertised the dog here and resold him. That's when someone on the forum figured you out, not when you decided to tell us what you do. Remember?
The thing is, I wasn't hiding. I didn't stupidly talk about Pearl as a pet, post her on dogster and then turn around and post her for sale, thinking that no one would find out about what I do. I clearly stated that I had made a mistake buying her on impulse but also clearly stated that I knew I would be able to find a good home for her if I decided not to keep her. I'm human. Humans make mistakes. She is a precious little girl and she's in a perfect home. Some of you are bound and determined to color me awful but again, I can assure you that I'm pure of heart and I love all of my babies and have developed some life-long friendships through the process of placing them in good homes.