| saydebear |
| Posted 5/11/2008 4:04:53 AM |
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My 5 year old cocker (my baby) died today. Her name was Sayde. She was a wonderful dog, healthy, full of energy and happy always. I noticed she would get a few ticks when she would go out to relieve herself. I would check her and remove any before they attached and I also applied Frontline between her shoulder blades like recommended. I applied one month and 30 days later I applied again, she would still get ticks. She also got very weak and developed a cough. A few days later she started breathing heavy and wouldnt eat. She was fine until I applied this. She's gone now. I have notified the manufacturer of this product. I dont want anything, I just wish I had my Sayde back. I live alone and she was everything to me. Please, everyone that loves their pet like I did think about it before you apply any kind of chemical to them. If the label reads do not get it on your skin and wash hands after appling to your pet, dont put it on your pet. The pain of losing your best friend hurts awefully bad. |
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| beaglebrat |
| Posted 5/11/2008 11:52:00 AM |
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I am sorry about your loss, but when your Dog started having the heavy breathing did you take it to the vet? After your Dog died did you get a necropsy done? If you didn't do those things you really don't know why the Dog died and you are kind of slandering frontline.
I have safely used the product on my dogs, including those with small Puppies. if needed.
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/11/2008 3:39:57 PM |
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I am very sorry for your loss.
However, I think your Dog should have had medical treatment at first signs of any medical problem.
As Beaglebrat said, a necrospy should have been performed to determine exact cause.
Additionally, if your yard had such an infestation that you needed to remove ticks from your Dog everytime she went outside, I would have recommended having your yard professionally treated.
You should also know that there are diseases that can cause those sympotms that are not related to Frontline.
Ehrlichiosis - Tick Fever is one of those diseases and also bears some of the sympotoms.
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/11/2008 3:40:26 PM |
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Symptoms
Symptoms of Ehrlichiosis are often diverse and vague and can vary during the three different phases of the disease. The first phase, called the acute phase, occurs eight to twenty days following exposure. During this phase, mild signs including fever, nasal discharge, anorexia, lymph node enlargement, and breathing difficulty occur. Unfortunately, these signs are not specific for Ehrlichiosis. After one to two weeks the pet recovers. The next phase, the subclinical phase, shows no signs and lasts one to four months. During this time, the pet may mount a sufficient immune response to rid itself of the disease. If not, the chronic phase begins. Signs during this phase can be severe and include depression, weight loss, abdominal tenderness, and bleeding tendencies such as coughing up blood. This phase generally continues until a diagnosis can be made and treatment begins.
http://www.eyecareforanimals.com/tick.php
So in other words, I wouldnt be so quick to say it was, or even had anything to do with frontline.
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| moggie |
| Posted 5/11/2008 5:09:13 PM |
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first let me say how sorry i am for your loss...i know how it hurts.
i would have to agree with the other posters as i have used frontline for many years on all my dogs and cats..never an issue. unless a necropsy was done, there is really no way to know that the frontline was the cause of death. unfortunately i would think that whatever was the problem coincidentaly(spelling) illness took over at the same time. |
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| maligirl1 |
| Posted 5/12/2008 8:24:45 AM |
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first let me also say how very sorry i am for your loss .i have also used frontline for my pets in the past(as have alot of my friends)and have never had a problem.it doesn't make it any easier to handle but really without a post on your Dog is there a way to prove that frontline had a part in killing your dog? |
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| boswer |
| Posted 5/12/2008 2:10:52 PM |
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| Quote saydebear: My 5 year old cocker (my baby) died today. Her name was Sayde. She was a wonderful dog, healthy, full of energy and happy always. I noticed she would get a few ticks when she would go out to relieve herself.... |
I am very sorry for your loss. I understand the pain you are in. I have stopped trying to warn people about the side effects of flea prevention as it is taken as preaching which further leads to bashing everytime I try. I can't bring your pet back all we can do is make others aware of what has happened to your poor dog. My heart goes out to you. In regards to the other heartless remarks made defending the chemical company that makes Frontline just because Frontline doesn't kill your Dog doesn't mean that its safe.
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/12/2008 2:30:37 PM |
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There is no evidence to prove the medication cause the dogs death in the first place.
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| boswer |
| Posted 5/12/2008 3:20:37 PM |
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Quote NoSkiveez: There is no evidence to prove the medication cause the dogs death in the first place.
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Go figure!
Here we have this poor lady mourning her dog's death and your arguing whose fault it is.
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/12/2008 4:04:06 PM |
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Loss or no loss, you cant go around claiming something killed your Dog unless you factually know that it did kill your dog.
We all know you are bent on not not vaccinating, not medicating your dog, etc. We get that.
I never said that I didnt feel for the loss of the dog. However but butchering a company based on speculation is uncool.
This one is one of my favorites!!! Just one of the many many reasons why I can not take anything that comes from you seriously.
http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/forum/83... |
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| boswer |
| Posted 5/12/2008 5:02:39 PM |
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Quote NoSkiveez: Loss or no loss, you cant go around claiming something killed your Dog unless you factually know that it did kill your dog.
We all know you are bent on not not vaccinating, not medicating your dog,... |
All I can say is to grow up!
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Toxic medicine, flea and tick products are poisoning our pets - Frontline, Sergeant's Pet Care, Zodiac flea control and Hartz products ..... medication called ProHeart 6 has been linked to a number of Dog deaths, ...
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/12/2008 5:20:04 PM |
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LOL Bowser, that is all you can say isnt it? That is all you can say when it comes to FACTS. The FACT remains there is no proof that this Dog is dead due to frontline. It does not matter the ingredients, when proof does not exist.
Hey bowser, doesnt xrays have harmful radiation properites. Hasnt your Dog had a number of these harmful xrays?
I'm also curious...how many harmful medications has your Dog been put on?
I am also curious to know how many times you have saved your Dog from the evil clutches of uneducated vets?
Come on Bowser, enlighten us!!!
Or will this be another of those situations where you dont come back for another week or two and hope everyone forgets all of the innacurrate information you have posted since you have been here?
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| boswer |
| Posted 5/12/2008 5:26:41 PM |
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| Quote NoSkiveez: LOL Bowser, that is all you can say isnt it? That is all you can say when it comes to FACTS. The FACT remains there is no proof that this Dog is dead due to frontline. It does not matter the ingredients,... |
Again, so sorry for the loss of your dog, please excuse the mentality of certain members of this forum.
Your only mistake was you came here to post the loss of your precious. - For those out there that have some sense of decency left you can google Deaths of dogs from Frontline and see for yourself. - Discussion is closed.
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/12/2008 6:03:31 PM |
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yes, please do excuse bowser...if you look thru the threads he has posted over the last year, it will become evidently clear that he never knows what he is talking about.
Do I need to post some of the examples of your competency? ROFLMAO!!! One of these days bowser you are going to make me p myself!!! ROFLMAO!!! |
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| beaglebrat |
| Posted 5/13/2008 10:01:14 AM |
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You know, Frontline is a pesticide and it is possible that a Dog could have a bad reaction to it. There is NO PROOF or EVIDENCE that it was the case with this Dog in particular.
I really don't advocate monthly PREVENTATIVE flea meds in this day and age. Why? Because if you notice a flea problem, and THEN put frontline on the dogs, it kills 99% of the fleas with in 24 hours anyway.
I don't see why people bother with preventative. I think vets push it on people because they want the extra $$ they make from the sales.
But, I live in a State w/o a lot of fleas too. If I was in Florida or another bug state, I would probably do what I felt was best for the Dog and that might include preventative flea treatment.
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| gbat1stop |
| Posted 5/13/2008 11:09:40 AM |
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Quote beaglebrat: You know, Frontline is a pesticide and it is possible that a Dog could have a bad reaction to it. There is NO PROOF or EVIDENCE that it was the case with this Dog in particular.
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I, also, am in a state where fleas are not a huge problem so I feel no need to use a preventative on my pets. I did experience my first flea problem last year on 1 Dog ONLY! How weird that only one Dog had fleas. We were able to get the situation under control early and did not need to use any sort of chemicals to treat them.
Any chemical can be harmful whether used on pets or humans but you cannot claim that it was in FACT Frontline that killed this particular animal. The proof is just not there, it is only speculation. |
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| boswer |
| Posted 5/13/2008 5:32:29 PM |
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Quote NoSkiveez: yes, please do excuse bowser...if you look thru the threads he has posted over the last year, it will become evidently clear that he never knows what he is talking about.
Do I need to post some of... |
Ha Ha so much for your credibility I am not a man I am a female High School Student .
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| beaglebrat |
| Posted 5/13/2008 6:11:00 PM |
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Quote boswer: Ha Ha so much for your credibility I am not a man I am a female High School Student .
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YOU ARE A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT!!!! I have skimmed a lot of your posts and I KNOW I would have remembered that little tid bit of info.
NO WONDER. You are a teenager.
It all makes sense now. |
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| suebgone |
| Posted 5/13/2008 7:31:14 PM |
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I would remember it as well.
can you imagine what she'll be like when she grows up?  |
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/16/2008 1:05:56 PM |
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Credibility has nothing to do with it.
It fully explains why you cant help yourself and it explains your posts.
Kids always think they know it all. |
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