| beaglebrat |
| Posted 4/28/2008 6:34:52 PM |
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Quote moggie:  order your vaccines from revival animal health. take your Dog in to the vet for a rabies only. you are right, unfortunately, a rabies vaccine is the law in most states. cant get out of it. |
I love Revival, their staff is so helpful too. |
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| moggie |
| Posted 4/28/2008 6:45:57 PM |
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 4/28/2008 7:28:06 PM |
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Like I said before Bowser. YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE SITUATION. An exception is not an option for this situation. I wont go into the details because the reason an exception is not an option is none of your business, nor is it even animal related.
But I do love how you think you are all knowing and you have attempted to knock me when you do not why or what the concern is. But yet you feel compelled to preach, like you are.
And furthermore, who are you to attempt to critisize me for choice that I make for my animals?
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| boswer |
| Posted 5/2/2008 6:57:18 PM |
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| Quote NoSkiveez: Like I said before Bowser. YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE SITUATION. An exception is not an option for this situation. I wont go into the details because the reason an exception is not an option is none of your... |
If you don't want people to know your situation and you refuse to seek out an alternatives such as an exemption to protect your sick animals why do you post your problems if its "so called none of our business". Step back and take a look at yourself, if your so defensive because somebody cares to try and give you advise to help you. Instead of taking it as constructive you take it as preaching. If you don' like advise and heavens knows you gets all types what are you doing here?
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/2/2008 7:24:43 PM |
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| wendyzbrainbox |
| Posted 5/4/2008 6:04:08 PM |
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| Quote NoSkiveez: Yesterday I was at the Vet with two of my three dogs. Red and Tubby. We initially went because I think that maybe Red isnt feeling well. So we wanted to do a Coccidioidomycosis test (VF) on both girls.... |
id like to know that myself! |
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| moggie |
| Posted 5/4/2008 9:45:03 PM |
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i am bailing in here...i cannot agree nor ever will agree with any Dog not getting the proper vaccines to protect it from dasterly viruses...i have seen the horrors of parvo virus and i can tell you WITHOUT A DOUBT...that toy breed Puppies who get parvo...DIE!!!! not only do they die, they suffwer more than most could stand to watch. i am a breeder and have been for many years. my Puppies usually weigh 1 to 2 #s at 8 weeks of age. i myself have had parvo twice over the years. nothing that could be done by a human could save them...parvaid.??..whatever!!...does the normal puppy owner keep this on the shelf at home just in case?? or even know what it is?? i doubt this!! once the puppy starts showing symptoms...its a little too little too late...i do not believe that all the parvaid in the world could save the toy babies...what about the time it takes to get this parvaid once the puppy gets deathly ill because he didnt get VACCINES????? the mail doesnt run as fast as parvo does!!!
if i were to tell someone who wanted one of my Puppies that they had NO vaccines, what do you think a normal person would say?? not to mention what the vet will say when this owner goes for their first visit...come on..its illegal to sell a puppy without vaccines...most states have a lemon law...the puppy has got to have VACCINES!!!!!!!!!!!....please tell me what in the world is the difference in giving our dogs vaccines than allowing our children to eat at mcdonalds??????????????????????? |
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/5/2008 12:26:42 PM |
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There is a risk involved with EVERYTHING!!!!
Vaccines do carry risks, and when I vaccinate my dogs I am always advised of these risks and I choose to vaccinate anyways.
When I get in my car to drive to work, I know the risks of doing so could mean that I get in an accident, but I go to work anyway.
I know the risks of trimming my dogs nails could be that the quik gets cut and they bleed. They could go out in the yard and get a sunburn, or get bitten by a mosquito, but I let them out anyway way. I also know that the risk of contracting a disease such as VF is possible (both for human and animals alike) I am not moving out of the region.
I feel that the benefits out weighted the risk. Another factor is enforcable law. There is no reason they cant be vaccinated and I wont ask a vet to write me an exception when I fisrtly believe the benefits out weigh the risks.
I would agree that if I went to a breeders house and none of the dogs on site had been vaccinated...I would be leaving without a pup. |
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| naturaldane |
| Posted 5/5/2008 12:46:33 PM |
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Parvaid works, and yes, any breeder should have it on hand if they have any chance of that being a problem. Its not just for no vaccinated dogs.
I for the life of me cant get over people thinking if nature can cause things, why cant it cure things as well, why must humans believe they are better than nature or God?
I have seen it save toy and "tea" cup breeds at a puppy store I worked as a groomer in when nothing else would.
Try it and maybe you wont lose any more babies, you have nothing to lose but a bit of pride.
I will say this again, a law can be over ridden and vaccines can be avioded, even in this case a titer should be sufficent. |
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| naturaldane |
| Posted 5/5/2008 12:47:12 PM |
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but not worth the risk understandably |
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/5/2008 12:56:18 PM |
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Quote naturaldane: Parvaid works, and yes, any breeder should have it on hand if they have any chance of that being a problem. Its not just for no vaccinated dogs.
I for the life of me cant get over people thinking if... |
I asked about Titers for Rico and it was not acceptable for the other side. Arizona was willing to accept but the other side wont. |
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| moggie |
| Posted 5/5/2008 2:32:46 PM |
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i wish i could be a believer, however , i cannot...let me explain..first of all...the Puppies in the puppy store would have had at least one vaccine..this may or may not have kept them from getting as sick as they could have. it may not have been solely the parvaid...i have a husband, and a son, who both dealth with 2 different kinds of cancer(serious cancers) at the same time..both did chemo which was very toxic and made them both very very ill...son did chemical and husband did interfuron...they are here today because of the non natural way...chemo has kept them cancer free for over 6 years now...i would have never allowed au naturale...i wish dane would tell us somwe of the things she knows for sure without any doubt. no one will know what vaccines the Puppies in the puppy store had or did not had and what the parvaid really and truely did ..because, if the Puppies were vaccinated...they may not have gotten as sick as they could have. i am interested to know some of the herbal etc. remedies..but on this issue i have to stand my ground... |
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| PerfectPom |
| Posted 5/5/2008 4:04:01 PM |
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| Quote moggie: i wish i could be a believer, however , i cannot...let me explain..first of all...the Puppies in the puppy store would have had at least one vaccine..this may or may not have kept them from getting... |
Moggie Dane was never arguing the way you want to do things, but she is entitled to the same. I would also think one would have trouble selling a puppy without vaccinations.
From what I've been reading many are getting a vaccinated pup, then getting the one year rabies and booster and then stopping as they believe they have enough immunity built up. You can then do the tither later to see how long they stay protected. You would run into a problem though if you wanted to board or take 'em to doggy daycare. |
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| naturaldane |
| Posted 5/5/2008 7:42:25 PM |
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| Quote moggie: i wish i could be a believer, however , i cannot...let me explain..first of all...the Puppies in the puppy store would have had at least one vaccine..this may or may not have kept them from getting... |
I am not saying your wrong for doing vaccinations, I do not believe repet vaccinations are a productive thing and cause more harm than good.
Some of the Puppies that went through the store had never been vaccinated, some had, some stayed there for several weeks. In the end they wound up just closing the store because anything new they brought in would get it no matter what they did. Most of the Puppies that had at least one vaccine did get just as sick as the ones that came in without vaccines, but more survived that had never been vaccinated before hand. Now we are talking about Puppies that where 6 weeks old also. I dont see where it prevents it a 100% and I believe that the risk outweigh the benifits.
Im not against modern medicine but do feel that for anything man can come down with, nature provides a cure, it just has to be found. There is a similar med made for people going through chemo that counters the nausia from it that has almost the exact same things in it.
Pavaid doesnt treat the parvo, it cares for the system while it runs it course. |
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| moggie |
| Posted 5/5/2008 9:32:47 PM |
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yes i understand what the parvaid is for and what it does...and i hope i NEVER have any use for it..however, you are right, it certainly would not hurt anything for every Dog owner to keep it on hand. i have a statement and a question. here goes.. there have been MANY times that shady breeders say they have given vaccines and in fact they did NOT!!! heres the question...what on earth were 6 week old Puppies doing in a puppy store??? this is NOT a good thing!!! |
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| naturaldane |
| Posted 5/6/2008 9:46:02 AM |
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No puppy belongs there, heres the thing of the day, the tiny babies sell better. |
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| moggie |
| Posted 5/6/2008 11:06:12 AM |
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i agree with the first part, i dont understand the last part... |
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| boswer |
| Posted 5/6/2008 3:22:27 PM |
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| Quote NoSkiveez: edited maoseger1010 |
You go girl!
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 5/6/2008 4:46:39 PM |
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Thanks Bowser! It means so much to me that you still come back to read my posts!!! |
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