| mama_jamiesue |
| Posted 4/3/2008 7:57:12 PM |
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 hey evey1... i'm new to the page, but I had some questions. my hubby is in the army. he's currently deployed to iraq. he gets back in jan of 09 and has promised our 2 year old daughter that he'll get her a dog. i've been doing research and i think a bagel (beagel-bassit hound mix) would be great, but y'all sound like experienced Dog owners what do you think? i'm a stay at home mom (so i have the time), our dughter will be 3 and our son will be 1 when we get the Dog (and we're planning to have more children), we have a 3 bedroom house, and a good size front and backyard. Getting a pet is a big responsibility and i understand that. i wanna pick an animal we'll have for the rest of it's life... pets are not disposable to me but my biggest concern is the kids... so what'd ya think? thanks |
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| maoseger1010 |
| Posted 4/4/2008 9:58:10 AM |
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| Quote mama_jamiesue: hey evey1... i'm new to the page, but I had some questions. my hubby is in the army. he's currently deployed to iraq. he gets back in jan of 09 and has promised our 2 year old daughter that he'll... |
Its so hard for us to tell you what breed will be right for you because we don't know you in the real world. There are to many variables.
I suggest you meet some dogs and breeders to get a feel for what you like and the pros and cons of each breed. Leave your check book at home and explain to the breeders what your doing. Meet adult dogs not Puppies. |
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| moggie |
| Posted 4/4/2008 10:34:48 AM |
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 im trying to understand this...without being rude...please tell me how you make a promise to a 2 year old???? i wasnt aware that a 2 yr old had the ability to understand a promise...but..i would think if i had to guess..this puppy will more or less be yours..even though you say it is for your 2 yr old...so...with this being said..it will certainly be your responsibility to care for this Dog solely since a 2 yr old does not have the ability too!! so with this being said....since you will be the sole caretaker....this will be your Dog simply because this is what he/she will understand....and with everything else now being said..here is exactly what is going to happen....too large a puppy...knock down child..too large a puppy..play biting hurts child..monster size licks...drown child..child is now petrified of dog....too little dog...child drops...child steps on..child...hits...child...feeds crayons etc...child doesnt understand at 2 yrs of age...if i hear one more time that my child is much more respectful and calm that everyone elses im going to scream!!! but to make a long story short...you are getting ready to jump into a huge responsibility because of the 2 yr old child.. not because of what you choose...unfortunately...this is one of the other reasons why dogs wind up in shelters...because...they play too rough with child and child becomes afraid...and..the end result is the child in more important than the dog...so..the Dog has to go.....so...my suggestion would be this...try and find a Dog who is still somewhat young...of medium size..who is already used to being around children and....monitor 24/7...because this is the ONLY way you will be able to make this situation work!!! and good luck !!!!!! |
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| sasa24510 |
| Posted 4/4/2008 1:29:10 PM |
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| Quote moggie: im trying to understand this...without being rude...please tell me how you make a promise to a 2 year old???? i wasnt aware that a 2 yr old had the ability... |
Have you heard of capital letters, periods, and spaces between your sentences??? The....gets really old...and really hard to follow...your message will frequently be overlooked...
As said, it really is your preference (the Dog is). You or your husband will be the one responsible for the dog. I'm glad you understand the responsiblity that you keep the Dog for its entire life. I have a lab, and am a fan of big dogs (I feel that the bigger the Dog the bigger the heart). The plus side to a large breed for you is there tolerance of children, the negative side is that they take up a lot of space and MUST be trained correctly (an untrained tiny Dog doesn't knock over the kids when they jump). The plus side to the smaller Dog is the size and easier control you'll have (not that they are easier to train, thier size allows you to pull them in and carry them somewhere). The negative side to a smaller breed is that they tend to be less tolerant of a young childs sometime untender touches. Keep up your research, is my recommendation.
Labs are great with kids, but require quite a bit of exercise to be controlled. If you like smaller dogs the Beagle isn't bad. When asking about mixed breeds, or hybrids, remember it could go either way. They could look like a basset and behave like a beagle, or vise vera. That is the biggest perk with a pure bred, you have a good indication as to what personality and temperament to expect.
Good luck with your search, let me know if you have any more questions. |
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| mama_jamiesue |
| Posted 4/5/2008 4:14:49 PM |
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| Quote moggie: im trying to understand this...without being rude...please tell me how you make a promise to a 2 year old???? i wasnt aware that a 2 yr old had the ability... |
ok to answer a few of your "concerns": number 1-- my daughter is very smart. her daddy promised her 6 months ago that he'd get her a puppy, and she brings it up (on her own) all the time. so yes she has the ability to understand a promise. number 2-- yes the care of Dog will be mainly mine. that's why i put in that i'm a stay at home mom. i have the time to take care, train, ect. number 3-- my child is not perfect but she's grown up her whole life around a Dog she can ride on... a rottweiler named sable. my child is in no way terrified of dogs. sable knocks her over on a daily basis and drowns her with kisses and my daughter loves it! number 4-- i am asking about the best family Dog so i won't choose a wrong breed. and number 5-- i would never just take our Dog to the pound because he/she didn't fit our family. i would find them a good home with a family or person that they fit better with. i apprieciate your concern |
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| suebgone |
| Posted 4/5/2008 9:00:33 PM |
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so you allow a 2 yr old to ride a large Dog - what happens when your child does that to the wrong dog?
this is just one of the reasons many shelters, rescues & breeders do not adopt to homes with young kids.
mogie: yes, paragraphs would really help & less repetition but you are right on target with what you said. if only people would listen |
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| moggie |
| Posted 4/5/2008 9:52:35 PM |
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 i will try my best not to use the ....between expressions, however, i cannot take the time to use caps. this will take some getting used to so patience. it sounded to me that she was going to be a brand new Dog owner. didnt realize she had a rott. this now brings up yet another issue. the rott. now we have to deal with a 2 year old, a rott, and a few more kids on the way. i have no clue what to say. |
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| kathystone |
| Posted 4/5/2008 11:22:16 PM |
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Labs are used alot for service dogs for the blind, deaf etc. I would vote for a lab because they USUALLY are very forgiving of kids handling. Most of your little dogs are sensitive. Pugs would be my choice for a small Dog around kids. Stay away from cockers. Most are so inbred they are psycho. Just ask anyone who works as a groomer.( Yes, there are great cockers but in general they pee when you try to pet them and some are prone to "rage" where they go nuts and bite for no reason.It isn't worth a kid geting bit.) |
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| emlee3 |
| Posted 4/5/2008 11:51:44 PM |
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| Quote mama_jamiesue: ok to answer a few of your "concerns": number 1-- my daughter is very smart. her daddy promised her 6 months ago that he'd get her a puppy, and she brings it up (on her own) all the time. so yes she... |
you claim that your child is not perfect and proceeded to tell us that she rides on your dog. Does that mean you don't agree with this behavior?
Do you correct her when she rides her dog?
The first thing to do is to teach your daughter pet caring etiquette. Its never to early to start learning. Teach her the how to's and what not's in caring for a dog.
Once your daughter understands than i suggest looking at the shelter. Puppies are harder to care for when you have a toddler..i would stick with an older Dog (2 yrs and up). |
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| bigdogg233576 |
| Posted 4/6/2008 9:56:03 AM |
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i have a 2 year old son and a Chihuahua she loves my son it is all in how much time you are willing to work with your kids and you Dog so dogs are aggressive some dogs arent but even aggressive dogs if trained right can be around kids |
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| maoseger1010 |
| Posted 4/6/2008 10:20:52 AM |
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| Quote bigdogg233576: i have a 2 year old son and a Chihuahua she loves my son it is all in how much time you are willing to work with your kids and you Dog so dogs are aggressive some dogs arent but even aggressive dogs if... |
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| maoseger1010 |
| Posted 4/6/2008 10:36:34 AM |
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I've raised my children around dogs their whole lives. Both large and small breeds. I think children and dogs can do just fine as long as parents have realistic expectations from both. Your daughter likely thinks the Dog will be a live stuffed animal which is a normal expectation from a child of her age. (heck I know adults that think that) I'm sure she is very smart, which is good for you because you can teach her the do's and don'ts of Dog etiquette. You need to pick your breed and read read read about it. Talk to trainers and breeders. Remember training starts day one with your Dog and child. No jumping, no tug of war, no nipping,pulling of ears, hair or tail,ect. You don't have to untrain what you never allowed in the first place. Spend your time learning and setting up the rules now before your husband comes home. Explain to him everything you've learned and how you have a plan, that will make having a Dog and a child work well. My guess is if your husband is anything like most men and dogs, you'll have more problems with him than your daughter. For some crazy reason men like to do things with dogs that are often counter productive to their training. (of course not all men do this so everyone reading this save your hate mail).
A well bred Pug is a big Dog in a small body and they generally do better with young children than some of the larger breed dogs. Just a thought.
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| mama_jamiesue |
| Posted 4/6/2008 8:14:51 PM |
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Quote suebgone: so you allow a 2 yr old to ride a large Dog - what happens when your child does that to the wrong dog?
this is just one of the reasons many shelters, rescues & breeders do not adopt to homes with... |
ok for those of u how missunderstood me... I meant to say "could" ride of the rott (not 'can') I was making a point of the rotts size. The rotty is not ours, it's my in-laws, who we've lived with for the past 2 years. We are moving out into our own home (the house I described above). I am not a new Dog owner, but I have always owned large breeds, and I am now more interested in a Med. size. I don't want to get a small Dog for fear my daughter or son (when he's older) could hurt the Dog on accident. I have an accurate veiw on what to expect of my daughter or son; AND FUTURE CHILDREN. I have worked hard with my daughter to have respectable behavior around dogs since she could sit-up. She knows not to sit on, pull on, hit the Dog ect (or ride on- that would be detramental to Sable's back and hips). I just thought the fact that I have children is an important commponate in which breed of Dog our family chooses. you can't tell me no one with children should have a dog! and some of u can come out very attacking; which doesn't make since 2 attack me since i'm doing the responsible thing by doing research and asking questions.
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| lakid1 |
| Posted 4/7/2008 3:29:25 PM |
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Quote suebgone: so you allow a 2 yr old to ride a large Dog - what happens when your child does that to the wrong dog?
this is just one of the reasons many shelters, rescues & breeders do not adopt to homes with... |
You are right on that one suebgone. |
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| mama_jamiesue |
| Posted 4/7/2008 7:06:21 PM |
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| Quote lakid1: You are right on that one suebgone. |
she doesn't ride on the damn dog!
and I'd also like to say thank you to:
sasa, kathystone, maoseger and big dog
for giving me some textacualtext advice I can use.
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 4/7/2008 7:19:09 PM |
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Everyone who did reply in disgust that your daughter rides the dog...DID SO ON INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED.
Maybe you did misword your post. However the fact is they provide their reaction to your mispost.
Not only that, but there have been two posts since you clearified that. One being a post made by Lakid and one where you are jumpin over Lakid over the post.
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| 5dogmom |
| Posted 4/8/2008 7:58:19 PM |
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I would not get a small dog. They are breakable. What about a pug, not to big but not to small. Fun but laid back too. I have three friends with whom I have picked a Dog breed for all are extremely happy now. I know everyone thinks labs and goldens are good but with small children they are exciteable and can knock them over and things. My daughters friends brother got knocked over by their lab and he broke his leg. My grandmother also got knocked over and broke her collar bone.
A well bred cocker spaniel is good too. Friendly, upbeat, and fun breed. Also a french bulldog is fun. Expensive though. Beagles are good but one of the hardest to train. They can be stubborn, more so than a bulldog because some of them don't aim to please.
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| lakid1 |
| Posted 4/15/2008 9:43:20 AM |
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Quote mama_jamiesue: she doesn't ride on the damn dog!
and I'd also like to say thank you to:
sasa, kathystone, maoseger and big dog
for giving me some textacualtext advice I can use.
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Alright calm down. Maybe we read your post wrong. Sorry. |
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| wayne headlee |
| Posted 4/15/2008 11:01:33 AM |
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y are beagles hard to train???????? |
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| NoSkiveez |
| Posted 4/15/2008 5:30:43 PM |
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| Quote lakid1: Alright calm down. Maybe we read your post wrong. Sorry. |
No. No one read the post wrong. If it really is the case that the Dog isnt being ridden , then the poster posted incorrectly.
Everyones responces were based on the information that SHE provided to the board. |
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