| InLoVeWiThPuPpIeS |
| Posted 3/2/2008 1:30:41 AM |
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I feel like i have possibly already driven a certain breeder crazy with all of the questions I have already asked, so I thought I might just ask a few here to see what is common...
Has anyone reading this had a puppy shipped to them before? This is what I will need to do,and I am not sure how it works. I can't find very much helpful info on this or other sites, as I am not very computer friendly. Does the breeder drop the pup off at their airport & give me flight info? Does the pup travel on a regular airplane or are there cerain types of planes/flights for animals?
If my puppy has spent the 8 weeks with the breeder & their family, that is constantly breeding.. Is it likely my pup could be potty trained before I get it?
Will the puppy have a hard time adjusting to it's name change, once I get it? It will be spending 8 weeks with another family who will call it a name that they think suits him, what if I do not like the chosen name?
Thanks for any of your help! |
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| panthercreek |
| Posted 3/2/2008 8:36:05 AM |
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The breeder takes care of all the shipping and will give you the flight information you will need. They should also give you an airway bill number that you will need to pick the puppy up, you also have to show a photo ID. We have had a puppy shipped to us with no problems and we have shipped Puppies with no problems. It is always better to pick the puppy up, meet the parents, breeder and also see where your puppy was born but if you are halfway across the country you probably can't do that.
Your puppy probably won't be potty trained, really 8 weeks is to young to think that they can be potty trained. Also the name thing shouldn't be a problem, he or she is only 8 weeks old and probably not responding to the name they are calling him. |
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| beaglebrat |
| Posted 3/2/2008 10:14:03 AM |
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Quote InLoVeWiThPuPpIeS: I feel like i have possibly already driven a certain breeder crazy with all of the questions I have already asked, so I thought I might just ask a few here to see what is common...
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You do have a lot of basic questions that kind of make me question if you are really ready for a puppy.
Let me break this down for you. An 8 week old puppy has only been alive for 56 days. FIFTY-SIX DAYS! Of those about 12 were spent being blind with their eyes glued shut because they are underdeveloped. They are barely able to walk well at 21 days.
If you are LUCKY the breeder will start some sort of potty training process at 6-7 weeks. Maybe letting them outside (depending on the breed, weather, many other factors), but most breeders do not make any effort other than changing papers/puppy pads. Which really is normal and fine.
Do not expect a puppy that young to be anywhere near potty trained. Would you expect a 3-4 month old human baby to be potty trained?
Puppies at 56 DAYS old still have to develop muscle control to hold it.
I don't let ANY of my Puppies go ANYWHERE until the family has what I call a 'potty plan'. Meaning, someone, and I don't care who-- needs to let that YOUNG puppy outside at least every 3 hours ROUND THE CLOCK.
I don't send Puppies to families that tell me there is a 5-6 hour or longer stretch that they expect 8-12 week old Puppies to 'just hold it'. It's not fair for the Puppies. and the family will not be happy when they have a Dog that NEVER potty trains because it is used to going in the house or it's crate, because they have FORCED it to.
When you purchase a puppy at 8 weeks, you normally have at LEAST several months of letting the puppy out A LOT, or if you aren't consistent-- the Dog may never learn not to go in the house.
This is a little baby you are adding to your home and little babies are a lot of work, time, and commitment. I really hope you are ready. |
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| moggie |
| Posted 3/2/2008 11:19:13 AM |
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 hats off to you beaglebrat...but...with my yorkie and maltese Puppies..i do not allow them to go outside for potty training as i dont let any of my Puppies go outside period until they have had at least 2 vaccines...and...most people now days are litter training them or training them to wee wee pads...everyone doesnt live somewhere where they can allow their puppy outside to potty..and it is a lot nicer to not have to get up during the night or get home at a certain time to let fido out...we have a lot of owners who live in condo's or apartments...it makes it soooo much nicer to have them wee pad or litter trained...as far as the question that was asked...i would imagine the breeder has answered all of the questions that were asked and i seriously even doubt that there was a breeder involved...check out the name on the question... and thumbs up to you...on the age of potty training..and the way in which you expressed yourself...where did common sense go????????????? |
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| suebgone |
| Posted 3/2/2008 7:13:05 PM |
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inlove, you have received excellent information here & I must agree I don't think you are anywhere near ready for a puppy.
are you an adult? it sounds more like you are a child & you are hoping to get a Dog at some point, no offense intended.
are you aware that many of these puppy shipping things are scams & you could loose all your money & get no puppy. be very careful
if you are serious about getting a dog, I would suggest you get an adult where you won't have so many difficult obsticles included & it will be easier for you to learn |
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| InLoVeWiThPuPpIeS |
| Posted 3/3/2008 12:50:34 AM |
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I asked for help, not criticism. Thanks |
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| maoseger1010 |
| Posted 3/3/2008 7:48:54 AM |
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| Quote InLoVeWiThPuPpIeS: I asked for help, not criticism. Thanks |
It is often in constructive criticism that we find the most help. |
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| moggie |
| Posted 3/3/2008 7:53:37 AM |
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 ...yes you asked for help....but...you can get all the help you need from the breeder of which you have chosen your puppy...the breeder has the responsibility to explain EVERYTHING!!! to you...puppy care, feeding, vaccine and health care, shipping information...answer breed specific questions...dont worry about driving the breeder crazy...you are investing in a long term, very very important venture...you need to write a list of questions down to ask the breeder you have chosen...your veterinarian will also be of great help...ask for references from her/jhis veterinarian and previous buyers...and most of all...do not buy out of the country and do not wire money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good luck!! |
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| PerfectPom |
| Posted 3/3/2008 11:11:13 AM |
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Quote InLoVeWiThPuPpIeS: I feel like i have possibly already driven a certain breeder crazy with all of the questions I have already asked, so I thought I might just ask a few here to see what is common...
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If you are not getting a good vibe from this breeder you are speaking of, continue to search for one that won't mind answering all of your questions. A good place to start and find reputable breeders is to get a breeder list from the Dog club of the breed you are considering. You can do a google search for a chosen breeds club to get the info. I would tread carefully using anyone off this site jmo. |
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| suebgone |
| Posted 3/3/2008 7:54:08 PM |
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the fact that a breeder belongs to a breed club does no more to assure they are reputable & ethical than belonging to AKC does.
that is very mis-leading.
I frequently see you turning people away from the forum & discouraging them from asking questions. isn't this why the forum is here?
if you don't want to answer questions that is certainly your perogative, but people are welcome to come here to ask
let the buyer beware - learn the difference in breeders.
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| PerfectPom |
| Posted 3/3/2008 10:48:44 PM |
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Quote suebgone: the fact that a breeder belongs to a breed club does no more to assure they are reputable & ethical than belonging to AKC does.
that is very mis-leading.
I frequently see you turning people... |
First off are you talking to me? It would be helpful if you quoted. Very mis-leading my a$$!!! Everywhere you go including books and websites tells you to start with breed clubs and do the same research you would on any other breeder. I don't know where you get off saying I tell people to go other places, as though I haven't seen you agree with other peoples or your own advice to do so, or that there is anything wrong with it. I never said people can't get help here so don't put words in my mouth while you're having your delusion. I have just as much right to post my opinion here as you do. If I want to tell someone to find a breed specific website as there will be many more owners there of that breed or send them to a Dog food rating site or a breed club, yes that is my perogative and more helpful than what you added here, so get over yourself already it's really time    |
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| suebgone |
| Posted 3/4/2008 4:40:35 PM |
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the turning people away from here was for moggie - sorry
the first part is for you. do you not realize how many people out there think that AKC means the Dog is healthy etc? they think the same thing about breeders listed with a breed club.
no need to get you knickers twisted! |
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| PerfectPom |
| Posted 3/4/2008 5:47:12 PM |
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Quote suebgone: the turning people away from here was for moggie - sorry
the first part is for you. do you not realize how many people out there think that AKC means the Dog is healthy etc? they think the same thing... |
 and no need to get your granny bloomers in a bunch over AKC and breed clubs and suggest my advice sucks. I AM NOT GOING TO DRAW PEOPLE A MAP for every situation, which you certainly don't. There are many times you don't give a very in depth explanation of what you mean. You could have simply gave your opinion without the talking down to me and it would have made more sense.
EVERYONE knows breed clubs are a good place to start. Does this mean they are more reputable no...you have to do your research on anyone you're considering. I actually recommend picking up many books to start off when considering buying a dog. I merely think if this breeder made the OP feel like she was asking too many questions to move on to another breeder that will answer all her questions to her satisfaction. I also think she should search in her immediate area to avoid having to ship if at all possible. |
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| my_pooch_esme |
| Posted 3/4/2008 8:40:32 PM |
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Quote beaglebrat: You do have a lot of basic questions that kind of make me question if you are really ready for a puppy.
Let me break this down for you. An 8 week old puppy has only been alive for 56 days. FIFTY-SIX... |
I really love this website and find it helpful, but I wish people would stop flaming other's forums. It would be nice to get my questions answered without someone telling me I shouldn't own a dog! (I have had this happen many times) |
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| beaglebrat |
| Posted 3/4/2008 9:25:45 PM |
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| Quote my_pooch_esme: I really love this website and find it helpful, but I wish people would stop flaming other's forums. It would be nice to get my questions answered without someone telling me I shouldn't own a dog! (I have... |
Sorry, but I don't think someone that knows so little about dogs is ready for a puppy.
That is my opinion-- I am a breeder that wants to make sure that my Puppies go to good homes, that will care for them for life and not get frustrated when they aren't potty trained in a week.
Families such as this I highly recommend rescuing an older adult dog. They are often somewhat trained and a lot harder to harm or kill than an 8 week old puppy. |
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| PerfectPom |
| Posted 3/4/2008 10:32:00 PM |
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Hmmm B I'm surprised you feel that strongly from what the OP said. I often see breeders ads where they claim thier dogs are on thier way to potty training, (pee pad, paper trained) maybe that's what she meant and doesn't have a way with words on the internet. Peanuts breeder definitely worked on potty training and lets most of hers go at 10 weeks. The OP really didn't describe her situation that much, that I can make such a strong judgement. At any rate, if she ever comes back around she should read a lot of books on purchasing a puppy. |
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| beaglebrat |
| Posted 3/4/2008 11:34:37 PM |
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I also start my Puppies on potty training. I say that they are 'STARTED' on potty training, but I explain CLEARLY that it is just that, a start.
When I think of a potty trained dog, I think of one that is good in the house with out pee or poo accidents that you don't have to eyeball constantly,and aren't letting out ever 30minutes to 2 hours.
How long does that take, even with the best Puppies. A long way off of 8 weeks. Potty training is to me, the main reason Puppies are a pain in the butt. It's huge.
Dogs that aren't consistently let out may never fully potty train. dogs that are not potty/house trained are much MORE likely to end up in kill shelters and much LESS likely to be adopted. It can be a death sentence.
Besides potty training, I highly recommend to every puppy owner not experienced in dogs (or even if they are) to sign up for at least a basic obedience course.
My catch phrase is "the more time you put in to them as a puppy, the more you will enjoy them for the next 10-12 years as a well behaved adult".
Everyone loves a well behaved dog. Few like problem dogs.
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| suebgone |
| Posted 3/5/2008 12:36:04 AM |
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BB aren't your's in a kennel situation?
they will break at 4 weeks if they are. I'd have litters brought in & I'd straw up the outside run. actually I started doing it so they could walk on the ice. they loved it & never pooped or peed inside again. |
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| PerfectPom |
| Posted 3/5/2008 12:47:13 AM |
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Yeah I agree potty training is a big one...if OP really would think a pup could be fully trained at 8 weeks they need some exposure to the world of Puppies that's for sure. It's usually the owner and not the dog. I am very good at reading my dogs and the yorkie only went poop once in the house and I caught her almost ready to go twice and outside we went before she could do the deed. I am amazed that she seemed to have an understanding about it right away and went towards the correct door a few days after being here.
It's funny our Golden Retriever had a few accidents as a pup when we left him in the finished basement and then my dad bought me a crate and said here and what do you know after using it the first day he was trained from that day forward...never had an accident again except once I can think of when he went poop by the door he went out...we obviously overlooked his cues.
As far as the small breeds which I now have and are known to be hard to potty train I really don't know how people are sucessful that are not home with them at least for a while. Maybe that is why they fail. I agree it is the consistancy and routine of the whole thing and I have had good results. |
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| moggie |
| Posted 3/5/2008 8:12:32 AM |
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 specifically for suebgone......PLEASE!!!! tell me why my post would turn anyone away...let me tell you something...a good breeder...has the responsibility to screen their buyers..and definately explain each and every detail to a potential new owner of one of their Puppies...this is of the most importance!! if not..they would be sending Puppies home to people like the one who is asking all of these questions...these questions NEED to be answered by the breeder...if not...what would the conversation be anyway..hi i want to buy your puppy....ok...pay me??????????????????? it is my opinion that the care of the puppy is the most important thing...and if it is not explained in detail..the buyer needs to go to someone who does care...i certainly would never send a puppy home without instructions...and many many many too!! if you cannot understand this....i dont know what to tell you....
you are balking about the advice to check with breed clubs...akc..whatever...i dont care who you check with...whoever it is...has the responsibility to see to it that they have given the proper information to a potential new owner..to insure the knowledge one needs to properly CARE for their new pet...anything else would be very irresponsible....if i didnt feel comfortable with a particular breeder and i had to worry about the questions i were asking....commom sense would certainly kick in at that point!! |
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