| jboth91 |
| Posted 1/1/2008 10:26:12 PM |
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Hi everybody,
I know its been awhile, but I do pop in every once in a while to see whats going on. Nothings really changed here. Chloe the Cocker Spanial/Poodle still has raging skin allergies and Lady the lab mix has gotten better with her running off and territory issues.
My question is what causes dogs to lick their anus? I've noticed that Lady is licking hers a little more lately and her breath proves it. She never really used to do this until about a week or so ago. She doesn't have any worms or other bugs.
Thanks and happy new year. |
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| CannonFarms |
| Posted 1/2/2008 9:17:16 AM |
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has she had her anal glands expressed in the past two weeks? If not you can have your groomer or vet/vet tech do it, or you can find some direction on the internet, its not hard to do, just gross and very smelly.
Did you every try a raw diet with the Dog with allergies, some cant handle the cooked protiens and it helps, what do you have to lose by trying, if you do be sure to use a single meat source for a few days in a row that way, if its a meat protien you can figure out which one. |
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| panthercreek |
| Posted 1/2/2008 10:24:46 AM |
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Is she spayed? If not she may not be licking her anus she may be in heat and trying to keep herself clean. Just an idea! |
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| AngelZoo |
| Posted 1/2/2008 10:51:17 AM |
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When was the last time this Dog was seen by a vet, and... has it been since she started this licking?
My first guess would be the her anal glands need to be expressed, as fore-mentioned by a vet or a good groomer.
If you haven't had a fecal done recently I would also perform one of those.
I'll echo naturaldane here and ask if you have considered feeding a home made, or a raw diet? re: allergies.
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| jboth91 |
| Posted 1/2/2008 2:22:26 PM |
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Yep she is spayed and both of them have their anal glands expressed regularly. Chloe generally has all the anal gland problems (kind of the health issue dog). Only on occasions Lady needs hers expressed. We did express them though about 2 weeks ago.
Chloe's itching problems are a whole different story. We have tried almost anything. I'm seriously condsidering starting to feed raw.
Right now we are feeding Nutro Natural Choice the lamb&rice formula. We are also giving her a fish oil pill every morning along with a benidrill pill as adviced by the vet. We cut out all treats and are just giving Omega-3 sticks and dry kibble. This is also helping her shed a cupple pounds (she was about 5lbs over weight, went from 18lbs to 15lbs so far).
Well I hope this is enough info. for all yall.
Oh and by the way, Lily the cat is doing fine. She has fully recoverd from nearly dying 2yrs ago when my mom ran over the back end of her with the car by accident crushing her hips. Her kittens (I know shame shame for not having her spayed right away, she is now) are doing FABULOUS they love the water, have loving homes, and are rottenly spoiled. |
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| CannonFarms |
| Posted 1/2/2008 3:18:12 PM |
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Well, if the anal glads shouldnt be the issue, then i second the fecal check, or just have her dewormed with something like drontel because even if you have a fecal done, it doesnt mean that they are negative even if nothing is seen, when you do a fecal you look for eggs or cells and thats not always going to be in every sample.
I used to sell nutro, and i didnt like it then, nore do i now, i fed it because i could get it cheaply back in the day, but when i quite working there my dogs had to go on purina one (remeber back in the day) and there coats and over all health improved greatly, so im not a fan of the food.
What varriety do you use?
For starting her off on raw I would start with chicken breast or turkey wings even a whole cornish hen would be good, especailly if its got the organs, thats probally the size you would need. If she isnt to thrilled with this change, hang in there, feed breast cut up room temp. One more thing, remeber most dogs go thru detox and will blow their coats, it will take a week to start seeing results.
If you need any direct help, feel free to email me, kabukienot@yahoo.com and you can get a faster responce. |
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| suebgone |
| Posted 1/2/2008 6:51:07 PM |
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just an fyi - here's your Nutro. while the "lamb meal" is better than just "lamb" be assured there is far more rice in this food than anything else. soy is also an allergen
Lamb Meal, Ground Rice, Rice Flour, Rice Bran, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Natural Flavors, Soybean Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Whole Brown Rice, Dried Egg Product, Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Dried Kelp, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, Ferrous Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Copper Proteinate, Niacin, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Vitamin A Supplement, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid |
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| jboth91 |
| Posted 1/3/2008 12:36:10 PM |
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| Quote CannonFarms: Well, if the anal glads shouldnt be the issue, then i second the fecal check, or just have her dewormed with something like drontel because even if you have a fecal done, it doesnt mean that they are negative... |
When you say what variety do you use what do you mean? |
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| CannonFarms |
| Posted 1/3/2008 1:21:48 PM |
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There is about 20 or more different types of Nutro. |
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| suebgone |
| Posted 1/3/2008 5:55:19 PM |
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ND - she said Nutro Natural Choice lamb & rice. that is why I used that one to show her what was in it. |
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| emlee3 |
| Posted 1/3/2008 5:59:44 PM |
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Quote jboth91: Hi everybody,
I know its been awhile, but I do pop in every once in a while to see whats going on. Nothings really changed here. Chloe the Cocker Spanial/Poodle still has raging skin allergies and Lady... |
I would get a fecal test done if you want to check for any worms/parasite. I wouldn't give your Dog a dewormer unless your sure that its worms. does lady have diarrhea or vomiting? Check her stool some worms can be detected from the naked eye.
Its probably her anal gland that is irritating her, which is why she is licking excessively. I would switch your dog's food immediately. Feed your Dog a novel protein in which they never eaten before such as rabbit or venison. if you do decide to do raw make sure to feed your Dog 2% of their body weight of meats/bones. You can also try packaged raw diets (i.e.nature variety, farmore). a bit pricey but worth it if you don't want to fuss with measurements or sorting/cutting meat. Also they provide some novel protein which are hard to find at a local supermarket |
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| jboth91 |
| Posted 1/4/2008 12:25:16 PM |
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Thank you everyone for your reaplies and help. Lady all of a sudden just stopped excessivly licking herself. I'm still goning to have the vet take a look at her and perform a stool biopsy just in case.
Thanks for the help guys. Besides food what else helps stop itching?
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| CannonFarms |
| Posted 1/4/2008 12:32:39 PM |
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fish oil will help with the skin overall health, vitamine E as well. You can buy hydrocortazone spray, this of course is for the rest of the body not the anal area.
Have you had a fecal done yet? if shes seen the vet before sometimes you can just take a sample to the tech and have them do it. |
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| jboth91 |
| Posted 1/4/2008 12:37:42 PM |
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Quote CannonFarms: fish oil will help with the skin overall health, vitamine E as well. You can buy hydrocortazone spray, this of course is for the rest of the body not the anal area.
Have you had a fecal done yet?... |
This is for Chloe's whole body itching problem we have tried just about all different foods and are condsidering switching to raw. We are giving her fish oil and benidril (as adv. by vet) and it really hasn't helped at all. We have also stopped giving treats except for dry kibble. |
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| AngelZoo |
| Posted 1/4/2008 12:44:38 PM |
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You can also try Flax Seed Oil, cold pressed, sold in dark containers.
I like Solid Golds brand.
"Solid Gold 100% pure flaxseed oil. Cold-processed. No chemicals used. Organically grown flaxseed oil is the richest source of Omega 3 and Omega 6 essential fatty acids. Adds shine to coat. Aids in elimination of scratching and feet licking due to dry or dandruff coat. For dogs, cats, horses and all animals.
Our flaxseed oil is the ONLY flaxseed oil that doesn't use hexane as a solvent to extract the cold-processed oil. Other companies use hexane but doesn't list it on the label. People aren't allergic to hexane, but dogs are highly allergic to it.
The FDA found that flaxseed oil stimulated the immune system, calcium was better absorbed, it has anti-tumor properties, was an anti-oxidant that kept cells younger, helped diabetic conditions, and lowered triglyceride and cholesterol. It is also helpful with kidney and liver problems." |
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| emlee3 |
| Posted 1/4/2008 2:36:49 PM |
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Quote jboth91: Thank you everyone for your reaplies and help. Lady all of a sudden just stopped excessivly licking herself. I'm still goning to have the vet take a look at her and perform a stool biopsy just in case.
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fish oil is a anti-inflammatory that will help with the itching. Most fish oil contain Vit E, due to it being fat soluable, so i wouldn't worry too much about it. Probiotics/acidophollus is also a good supplement.
does your Dog scoot on the floor? if it is her anal gland it may be infected either by seasonal allergies or food intollerance. I would check it over with the vet. Not all dogs fed a homemade diet will heal this problem..majority of the time it does but i've heard a lot of cases where it doesn't. Some dogs just don't know how to express their anal glands naturally, even with the support of a harder stool.
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| myla57 |
| Posted 1/4/2008 11:38:44 PM |
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I have a Westie who does the same thing. She has licked her feet and butt so much that her saliva has stained her fur. Through trial and error, I have decided that her problem is a food allergy. I have been feeding her Natural Balance duck and potato for a month and she is so much better. New, white fur is starting to appear. Give this a try. You can buy Natural Balance at any pet store. It's a little more expensive that some brands but worth it for Jazzy to be more comfortable and less red.  |
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| AngelZoo |
| Posted 1/5/2008 8:45:07 AM |
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Just be forewarned that the Natural Balance Duck and Potato is lower in protein content and fat and k/cals then many other foods out there.
While it's great for allergies, with some dogs, you'll break the bank trying to keep them feed enough to maintain their weight.
My girls were on it for a time and it worked well (no reactions to sensitive tummies) but I'd go through 2 cans of food every day and a 5 pound bag of the dry in about 4-5 days! |
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| rambo2 |
| Posted 2/11/2008 9:29:52 PM |
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Just a thought -- I had a German Shepherd that developed the itchy scratchies. Vet checked him thoroughly, pronounced him otherwise healthy, and we went through the whole food change, diet management thing with no results. I ran out of the shampoo I had been using for ages [my dogs all get shampooed on a routine basis--controls ticks and fleas, as well as excessive hair left behind in the house). Switched shampoos to a medicated brand, and lo and behold, no more scratching! No problems with the other dog, but apparently he developed an allergy. |
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| maligirl1 |
| Posted 2/12/2008 8:15:30 AM |
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 my cocker spaniel was allergic to the iams lamb/rice.he would scratch his stomach all of the time.and then his legs.the vet did some tests and he was allergic to lamb meal.switched to chicken/beef combo and he was fine.alot of people i know had dogs that were allergic to lamb meal from iams.maybe it was just the iams products i don't know but hope your Dog is getting better |
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