Keeshond Question

What is a fair price for a puppy keeshond?

    In Keeshond - Asked by Anonymous - 1/7/2013 3:42:06 AM
Depends what you are looking for. If you want a keeshond puppy from fully health tested parents expect to pay $1000 or better. If you want to take a chance on the health of a puppy then lower prices are available. I suggest you ask the breeder for proof of health testing on the parents, they should be able to link you to OFA board to prove health testing and be able to show you hard copies of such testing.
    Answered by cyndiros - 1/9/2013 9:36:59 AM

More people should be concerned about how healthy the puppy will be when you get it home not the best price you can find. You may save a few hundred bucks buying a puppy but then get puppy home and have huge vet bills because puppy is ill. You may think you are getting a bargain at $500 vs $1000 but that money can be lost in just one or two vet visits with a sick puppy. Spend your money wisely and research the breeder before you place deposit. Research the breed and know what health issues are common in the breed and look for parents that are health tested for those specific health issues. If you know the parents are health tested then that can eliminate a lot of potential issues that may arise in the future thus saving you hundreds possibly thousands. So my advice is find a breeder that has a background of healthy puppies and more importantly healthy adults and make that your goal. Prices vary hugely for puppies but only a small handful offer proof of healthy puppies.
    Answered by erbekees - 1/9/2013 10:01:28 AM

You should know that most companion breeders buy their breeding dogs from the very same breeders because there are only a couple that sell AKC with breeding rights. Therefore, the vast majority of the companion dogs being bred that have been tested are full blood relatives to those that have not been tested making all of them negative for the majority of the common illnesses or disorders. Only those with immediate show dogs on their pedigree don't come from these common companion breeders dogs. So priced high or low, you are pretty much buying the same puppy since they have the same bloodlines from the same original breeders that are selling to others to breed. Pay what you are comfortable paying, there's little to worry about with this breed.
    Answered by Anonymous - 1/31/2013 1:12:40 PM

Actually even though some might be related does not secure health, all siblings born in one litter will not always be as healthy as the others, this is why you health screen because you only want to use the stock that is tested good. Taking a chance on breeding puppies without testing the parents is just that taking a chance
    Answered by Anonymous - 2/1/2013 5:23:01 PM

Knowing where you purchase your puppy from is much more important then what you pay. Prices can vary greatly within this breed so the biggest question is what are you getting for your money. One of the comments below state: if related that automatically makes them negative for majority of illnesses. That simply is not true and that can be quickly researched to find the truth. Knowing the breeder you chose is knowledgeable about this breed and is telling you the truth is worth more then anything I would think. It is true you can only pay what you can afford but don’t be mislead thinking the parents of your puppy are clear of genetic issues without having them tested prior to breeding. If the statement were correct then every puppy would never have any health issues and that simply is not the case. I personally have purchased many of my dogs from abroad, from health tested parents, because of the genetic issues in the companion dogs here in the states.
    Answered by erbekees - 2/11/2013 10:38:49 AM

Honestly, look at the breeder profile, puppies if overpriced wont sell. IF a breeder has been around awhile, and has the quality, they do charge more.. and they get their prices. once in awhile you'll find an otheriwse high priced breeder who, either has too many, is expecting another litter or even has other issues going on and must move puppies fast so they reduce puppies.. ASK WHY! I did and got a top quality male with alot of Champion background and paid insanely little because of a divorce! Thier loss my gain so ask questions
    Answered by NCarolinaKeeshonds - 3/3/2013 11:07:17 PM

I would say no matter what the price, to ask for the pedigrees. If a breeder is touting Champion bloodlines when in fact there are only 2 champions on the mother’s side way back in the 4th generation, well that simply is not Champion quality. Many breeders use this approach as a way to make you think you are getting a better quality dog when in fact you are getting a puppy with basically nothing out of the ordinary, no health testing on the parents AND they are charging top dollar.
    Answered by erbekees - 3/7/2013 11:18:15 AM

The post below suggests some breeders have to many puppies and lower prices to “move” the puppies. Any responsible breeder will not have several litters all at once without the majority of the litters being sold. Most breeders will have several deposits on the litter before even breeding adults not the other way around. But I will agree that knowing where your puppies come from is the key here, make a home visit and see for yourself.
    Answered by erbekees - 3/7/2013 11:26:39 AM

When looking at a pedigree CH should be in the 1st and 2nd generation anything further back on that pedigree has been washed out by not breeding to the better quality.If there are no CH in 1st and 2nd generation and they appear in 3rd or 4th generation you are not getting a CH line, Do not be fooled by people boasting CH pedigrees
    Answered by Anonymous - 3/7/2013 4:22:16 PM

I guess bottom line is education is the best approach, do just a little research and see what claims are true and what claims are not. Don’t take anyone’s advice find the facts for yourself. Pay what you feel is appropriate for what you are looking for. For Miss NCarolina who purchased a “top quality male with alot of Champion background” Look at the pedigree and see for yourself, it is posted on my website. I am not seeing “a lot of Champion” in that pedigree but 2 compared to zero can be a lot…….I guess. Get proof of any claims and all promises in writing! As you can see breeders all have their opinions on what is right and what is wrong, it is up to you as the buyer to determine which breeder is right for you.
    Answered by erbekees - 3/7/2013 7:53:59 PM

A fair price, is what your willing to pay for whatever puppy your looking at. Quality is everything. Those who constantly buy new stock, have to test more because they have no history. Those of us with long term proven healthy stock, don't have a lot to prove when we have a client base as long as your dogs tail with no issues. I'd also point out, even with full testing.. The fact of life here, your dog will die of something.. be it a form of cancer we cant test for, a blood issue, any number of things there are just no tests for. There is a huge false sense of security produced by those touting " Fully Health Tested" I have sold to clients who bought from the " Better breeders" in the past.. after they buried their dog from a number of ailments. In fact, Breeders whom replied to this very question have owned dogs themselves and bred from the very breeders who produced sick dogs. know your breeder, check references,
    Answered by ncarolinakeeshonds - 7/28/2013 9:40:48 PM